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  1. #5221
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 90
    Based on the job dev's history, I am not at all surprised the SGE dots don't stack. Summoner rework, BLM changes, AST card changes, Dragoon "rework", tripling down on 2 minute meta... you're only allowed to play the way the devs want you to play with absolutely no room for variation or skill expression.

    Could only be explained by either being creatively bankrupt or absolute sheer laziness. Though it is most likely both.

    I'll play tank/dps to occupy my time until another MMO comes out that has RPG elements that Yoshi-P and crew forgot existed, or wait for WoW's War Within reviews to play a game that has actual healers.
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  2. #5222
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    Wildheaven182's Avatar
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Ahh, so I guess those healers stopping by to celebrate their quick queues are the equivalent of eating a cheeseburger at a hunger strike lol.
    They are free to do so! We just got tired of the sawdust and tar patties.
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  3. #5223
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    Gullis's Avatar
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    Gullis Hil
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    just lol. I was actually considering playing sage due to them having two dots, but I guess not
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  4. #5224
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    Wildheaven182's Avatar
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    SGE must be a inferior SCH you don't get it. It's balance! SGE having anything unique is a balance flaw! I still cannot believe SGE abilities were match for match copies of scholar bar Energy Drain, Strat and Fairy. Like lmao is the next healer gonna be white mage except they remove the lily stuff lol.
    I believe yoship has actually said they are never releasing any new healers or tanks ever again because they are hard to balance and that makes them hard to make unique.
    I thought everyone knew this, that there are only going to be new dps jobs from Sage onward.

    Always seemed like it would be the slow death of the game to me. That's actually a problem that threatens the game in the long term. If the next expansion is just one or two new dps, or no new jobs, we're talking about 4 years of no new healer gameplay styles. Or... attempts at new healer or tank gameplay styles, I suppose.

    Not sure it's fair to say attempt though when it doesn't seem like they were even trying with Sage.
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  5. #5225
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    ThaCa's Avatar
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    I believe yoship has actually said they are never releasing any new healers or tanks ever again because they are hard to balance and that makes them hard to make unique.
    I thought everyone knew this, that there are only going to be new dps jobs from Sage onward.

    Always seemed like it would be the slow death of the game to me. That's actually a problem that threatens the game in the long term. If the next expansion is just one or two new dps, or no new jobs, we're talking about 4 years of no new healer gameplay styles. Or... attempts at new healer or tank gameplay styles, I suppose.

    Not sure it's fair to say attempt though when it doesn't seem like they were even trying with Sage.
    At this point they should just make the absolute neccesary heals and mitigations generic skills that can be accessed by becoming healer or tank as sub-job and make everyone DPS by default.
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  6. #5226
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    just lol. I was actually considering playing sage due to them having two dots, but I guess not
    "Why would the dps healer have dps, that doesn't make any sense."

    -FFXIV Dev
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  7. #5227
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    I believe yoship has actually said they are never releasing any new healers or tanks ever again because they are hard to balance and that makes them hard to make unique.
    Lmao with sage being worse SCH and all tanks being worse WAR. The peak of creativity right here. (I was playing wow earlier as a demon hunter tank then a monk tank and realised how much I miss unique supports.)
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  8. #5228
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    We currently have 1 healer taking up 4 slots, a 5th slot is literally pointless if they don't change their design philosophy
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  9. #5229
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    I believe yoship has actually said they are never releasing any new healers or tanks ever again because they are hard to balance and that makes them hard to make unique.
    I thought everyone knew this, that there are only going to be new dps jobs from Sage onward.
    how difficult is it to balance invincibility and nothing?

    I wouldnt say its hard.. they just dont want to. its not a pvp centric game, there is nothing TO balance.if I am playing dps, I dont care if someone else, playing a different dps is out damaging me, I do the best I can, that the job can. it all contributes to the end result.

    trying to balance a trinity mmo with very contained pvp is just an excuse to do nothing.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  10. #5230
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    No, I have not, as I learned pretty early on that queues were bad and I needed to DC hop to get any roulettes done. With that having been the norm for the year and a half I've been playing, I find it difficult to believe that it's not an issue anymore, and at this point I actually feel kinda... adverse to the idea of playing with anyone else from Dynamis because I don't feel any sense of community or connection with my data center or even server. This is just the place I got stuck on (twice now).

    Though it's probably moot anyway, I only main DPS and we just got two new ones, then there's going to be all of the ex-healers jumping on DPS as well, so I'm probably still better off focusing on other venues of earning XP on my own.
    It really isn't an issue on 4-man stuff anymore. I queue over there on my alt all the time and even on dps it's pretty speedy. I got locked out of AR because I can't access the gear ilevel (which hopefully that change in the 7.0 patch will fix) so I can't speak on that one, but Trials is good and the only other one I notice can take some time is Normal raids. Normal raids have gotten better as I got more options, though. But I did have to go over to Aether to unlock Alex and Omega. I just finished ShB on her so I haven't done Eden yet.
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