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    Hellebore_Ghrian's Avatar
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    And then you have people like me doing ultimates as healer and still saying the role is boring as hell. But pretty sure my opinion doesn’t matter cause I’m an elitist or something….. while people that didn’t do ultimates getting told they are to casual and have no clue what they talk about because they didn’t do the hardest content aka spreadsheet city.

    It’s the typical people talking without fact checking anything and flipping the narrative over and over and over again.
    There should be a way to become a casuals-care elistist. Be like a casual yet ultimate clearing player so we can find where we're allowed to voice our points ?

    By buying ultimate clears maybe ? /s
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    Last edited by Hellebore_Ghrian; 06-25-2024 at 02:00 AM.
    Healer? What do you even need one for?

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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian View Post
    There should be a way to become a casuals-care elistist. Be like a casual yet ultimate clearing player so we can find where we're allowed to voice our points ?
    I think I fit this bill, I cleared ultimates and savage but the casual spreadsheet that people linked says my score is 10.

    So I'm a super casual player that also clears the hardest content, that means I cannot be dismissed because I'm a contradiction.
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    Anyone reading this who values privacy. Go on your lodestone character profile and write in the description:
    fflogs-hidden
    tomestone-hidden

    This will force your character to opt-out of these two website. Realistically they should be like that by default but those website developers seem not to respect people's privacy to make it opt-in.
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Anyone reading this who values privacy. Go on your lodestone character profile and write in the description:
    fflogs-hidden
    tomestone-hidden

    This will force your character to opt-out of these two website. Realistically they should be like that by default but those website developers seem not to respect people's privacy to make it opt-in.
    If there is one thing that I would say it is...

    For people that are looking for this information, the 'concealment' or more accurately the opting-out of information is always worse than the presence of information (regardless of what that information says) as it only leaves people to speculate on why, and more oft than not this will lead to the worst conclusion absolutely possible.

    Personally, I don't care very much and generally I have better things to do with my time that worry about some unhinged individual stalking me (or even worse actually spending developmental time to write a script and then interact with an API to extract data en-masse) across several websites on the basis of an opinion.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 06-25-2024 at 02:41 AM.

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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If there is one thing that I would say it is...

    For people that are looking for this information, the 'concealment' or more accurately the opting-out of information is always worse than the presence of information (regardless of what that information says) as it only leaves people to speculate on why, and more oft than not this will lead to the worst conclusion absolutely possible.

    Personally, I don't care very much and generally I have better things to do with my time that worry about some unhinged individual stalking me (or even worse actually spending developmental time to write a script and then interact with an API to extract data en-masse) across several websites on the basis of an opinion.
    I opted out. Since I'm not going to be applying for any end-game raiding guilds or progging, there really is no point to my data being there. If my life changes in the future and somoene needs this info for legit reasons, I'll turn it back on.

    I never chose to be on those websites to begin with.
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If there is one thing that I would say it is...

    For people that are looking for this information, the 'concealment' or more accurately the opting-out of information is always worse than the presence of information (regardless of what that information says) as it only leaves people to speculate on why, and more oft than not this will lead to the worst conclusion absolutely possible.

    Personally, I don't care very much and generally I have better things to do with my time that worry about some unhinged individual stalking me (or even worse actually spending developmental time to write a script and then interact with an API to extract data en-masse) across several websites on the basis of an opinion.
    Ok Arthars

    I'm going to continue to give feedback for the game despite limited clearing of Ultimate/Extreme/Savage content and you and your friends will need to read it and weep.

    Which btw, is all these content creators and their fans are doing. None of you will stop me or anyone from doing high end content. Let that be understood.

    Speaking of irrelevant droplets in the ocean. Ya'll need a serious dosing of self awareness.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-25-2024 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Ok Arthars
    How about no. I never stated what my stance was on, and personally I don't care what you or anyone does with the options they are presented, but there's no point in ignoring the simple fact that a lot of people view the hiding of information to be more concerning than the presence of information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    How about no. I never stated what my stance was on, and personally I don't care what you or anyone does with the options they are presented, but there's no point in ignoring the simple fact that a lot of people view the hiding of information to be more concerning than the presence of information.
    I think most people simply did not care, as they never experienced someone creating a spreadsheet from these forums about the posters and then spreading it on reddit. But now that we know there are unhinged individuals out there who use those websites as harassment tools, opt out I will. They can speculate and think the worst of me, I really don't care. I participate in very few topics where it would matter.
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If there is one thing that I would say it is...

    For people that are looking for this information, the 'concealment' or more accurately the opting-out of information is always worse than the presence of information (regardless of what that information says) as it only leaves people to speculate on why, and more oft than not this will lead to the worst conclusion absolutely possible.

    Personally, I don't care very much and generally I have better things to do with my time that worry about some unhinged individual stalking me (or even worse actually spending developmental time to write a script and then interact with an API to extract data en-masse) across several websites on the basis of an opinion.
    This is rather funny coming from a *weaver*, perhaps it's best on not speculate or intrude upon on why people should or should not share their information/data, but concentrate more on their opinions? Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    This is rather funny coming from a *weaver*, perhaps it's best on not speculate or intrude upon on why people should or should not share their information/data, but concentrate more on their opinions? Just a thought.
    If someone is going to harass you or is out to harass you, then they are going to proceed to harass you regardless of what you do with your logs. Me being a 'weaver' is literally entirely irrelevant as the basis of this topic is just basic human nature.

    and I am pretty sure I made it fairly clear that it was only an observation, as I said I do not care what you do with your do or do not do with your data.
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