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  1. #2811
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    UnconfirmedCat's Avatar
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    Miau Miau
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    Gilgamesh
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Nah, the point of the thread seems to be people desperately calling attention to themselves and making it about them. The person you're responding to pointed out anyone could simply choose not to play a healer without having to make oneself the center of attention for doing so.
    Sounds a lot like "You're allowed to stop playing healer, but don't you dare actually talk to people about it! Shut up and stay quiet!" Also, you're the one who has chosen to enter this thread full of people you disagree with regarding an issue you disagree with and calling attention to YOURSELF, by posting. You're a hypocrite.
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  2. #2812
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    TheDustyOne's Avatar
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    Dusty Two
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    "Want the game to be better for me personally" would be a more accurate statement. Discussions in this forum would be much more productive if people stopped trying to act as if personal, subjective opinions are somehow objective fact. For example, I'm very much enjoying healing where it's at right now. Making a significant change to it could be something I end up finding even more enjoyable...or it could make the game "worse" for me. It's all a matter of opinion. This kinda goes along with the first person I quoted.
    Ok, so I enjoyed the healers back in SB, they were fun, and ShB ruined that fun for me, but because you personally "enjoy healing where it's at right now" my fun no longer matters? That ironically makes you the self-centered one here as the devs took something that many enjoyed to cater to your tastes rather than those that already enjoyed it.

    Also yes, we are choosing not to play healer, that's literally the point of the strike, it's kinda ironic that Striker doesn't get what a strike is.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  3. #2813
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    OliviaLugria's Avatar
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    We've been complaining about this for 5 years. You can check the other healer threads. This is not the first time we've brought it up, but the moment we put "strike" in the title suddenly everyone wants to talk about it. We have had our feedback ignored for so long we had to escalate our language to be heard, and it has absolutely been effective.
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    I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE Discord: https://discord.gg/BKF6YSUDXc
    Frontlines Guide: https://oliguide.carrd.co/

  4. #2814
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    RhaesDaenys's Avatar
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    Eshi Sote
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I honestly don't know what you healers want... do you want every hit to be chipping everyone for 90% of their hp or something so you feel more engaged, or what? Because if that's the case, most of us will just quit because at that point armor and stuff is pointless. I am really unsure how to even 'fix the problem' because all of these arguments really boil down to a simple fact of, "I am burnt out on playing the same role for 5 expansions." Which applies to every job.
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  5. #2815
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    Kazmarek's Avatar
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    Cinnamon Maruhira
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    We've been complaining about this for 5 years. You can check the other healer threads. This is not the first time we've brought it up, but the moment we put "strike" in the title suddenly everyone wants to talk about it. We have had our feedback ignored for so long we had to escalate our language to be heard, and it has absolutely been effective.
    Have you tried unsubbing because of your unhappiness? No? Still giving Square a monthly subscription and buying the expansion every time? Well no wonder they're ignoring your feedback, you're telling them one thing and doing the complete opposite.
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  6. #2816
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazmarek View Post
    Bait? There's no bait here, you just don't like what I'm saying. So instead of listening to the logical counters, you cover your ears and call anything you disagree with "bait." The only people I've argued in bad faith with are the people who deserve to be argued with in bad faith. Everything else, I stand by 100%.

    How about, if you want to be taken seriously, you uncover your ears, stop calling anything you don't like "bait," stop responding emotionally, and listen. It's a lot simpler than it sounds, and it sounds pretty simple.
    You have yet to provide a good argument.
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  7. #2817
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    TheDustyOne's Avatar
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    I honestly don't know what you healers want... do you want every hit to be chipping everyone for 90% of their hp or something so you feel more engaged, or what? Because if that's the case, most of us will just quit because at that point armor and stuff is pointless.
    Strawman, we just want more than what's currently done.

    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    I am really unsure how to even 'fix the problem' because all of these arguments really boil down to a simple fact of, "I am burnt out on playing the same role for 5 expansions." Which applies to every job.
    Odd, I still enjoy RDM after all these years, but I hate what happened to SCH.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  8. #2818
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    RhaesDaenys's Avatar
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    Eshi Sote
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    Strawman, we just want more than what's currently done.



    Odd, I still enjoy RDM after all these years, but I hate what happened to SCH.
    More what? More that what's done? That could mean literally anything.

    Tell us exactly what you want.
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  9. #2819
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    OgruMogru's Avatar
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    I honestly don't know what you healers want... do you want every hit to be chipping everyone for 90% of their hp or something so you feel more engaged, or what? Because if that's the case, most of us will just quit because at that point armor and stuff is pointless. I am really unsure how to even 'fix the problem' because all of these arguments really boil down to a simple fact of, "I am burnt out on playing the same role for 5 expansions." Which applies to every job.
    To better inform yourself on the myriad reasons, please see the extensive thread linked in the OP documenting the longstanding issues healers have that are affecting players from all skill-levels and interests.
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  10. #2820
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    I honestly don't know what you healers want... do you want every hit to be chipping everyone for 90% of their hp or something so you feel more engaged, or what? Because if that's the case, most of us will just quit because at that point armor and stuff is pointless. I am really unsure how to even 'fix the problem' because all of these arguments really boil down to a simple fact of, "I am burnt out on playing the same role for 5 expansions." Which applies to every job.
    literally read the first post that started the thread, we specifically added a little section of things we're looking for,

    and no, 90% raid-wides aren't on the list, nobody here has played the same job for 5 expansions either since they got completely overhauled into different jobs in ShB
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