#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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Look, someone gets it! aaaaamaaaazing

[Supersnow845]

Look, someone gets it! aaaaamaaaazing

You know that link just sends you to the forums right?

[Saraide]

I found it on my own by coming to the forums, as I do with all threads I comment on. I don't follow a single streamer/creator whatever you call them. I also never said that people were asked why they unsubbed, I said to do so and provide the feedback as to why. That means contact support to provide feedback. The stats regarding the relic are nothing of value, that's correct. However if 500k players in NA swapped their main from healer to anything else, they would notice that and wouldn't wonder why, because people would have provided the feedback the proper channels, in the proper manner, as i stated. PUlling a childish tantrum on the forum and going "on strike" is not the proper manner.

So let me try to get what you are suggesting healers do.
You think:
-healers should provide feedback in the proper channels
-stop playing healers so the devs are confronted with low healer rates and will then connect it with the feedback from the proper channels

Did I get that right?

[Fawkes]

Look, someone gets it! aaaaamaaaazing

"in-game support-related feedback"


This is like how the "Website Feedback & Suggestions" Forum gets mostly suggestions about the game and not the website.

[Evergrey]

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I don't think the main issue why people come here and share their opinions as to why this might be "useless" is because people post feedback.
It's that people are calling for a Strike since feedback hasn't been adressed.
Which honestly should never be taken as granted.

Someone mentioned earlier how Yoshi had mentioned about Healer feedbacks in 2021, and someone else managed to find what I think might be just that.
So I'm simply gonna post a quote to the post with the link.

This is as close as I could find

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/...interview_2021

This indicated that (at least) up to 2021 Yoshi has been aware of Healers and their feedback but they just didn't think that those changes were needed for their vision of the jobs role.
So they haven't ignored feedback for 5+ years, as some have brought up.
And I'm sure they have seen feedback post 2021 as well and most likely still not seen those as needed.

[KageTokage]

This indicated that (at least) up to 2021 Yoshi has been aware of Healers and their feedback but they just didn't think that those changes were needed for their vision of the jobs role.
So they haven't ignored feedback for 5+ years, as some have brought up.
And I'm sure they have seen feedback post 2021 as well and most likely still not seen those as needed.

I'm assuming that era is where he said "Just play ultimates" which totally misses the point when it comes to why people dislike the current healing model.

[Evergrey]

I'm assuming that era is where he said "Just play ultimates" which totally misses the point when it comes to why people dislike the current healing model.

Earliest I could find is from 2022, so yeah, it's from the same era.
It seems like he and the team simply wanted to keep the Healer as stress-free as possible for newcommers and so on.
There was the time when Healers who didn't utilize their DPS skills (they had more before) kept getting complaints from others as they didn't fully do their part.
And it seems that SE simply decided to cut the DPS so they could focus on the healing.

Problem with that is that the combat isn't engaging enough for healers to use those skills regularely.
The Healer jobs toolkit is build upon groups failing mechanics and so on.
Might've worked better before, when not every single attack a boss does (except Auto Attacks) were marked out.
There's little to no room for mistakes these days in group content.
Heck, even Savage and Ultimate runs on clockwork rotations so as long as people knows them they can avoid everything but room wide damages and a couple few mechanics that involved taking damage.
And as someone brought up before, in those harder content, if someone makes a mistake it's often a 1-shot mechanic and if a person died at the wrong time there's no saving it.
So that leaves even less room for a healer to actually try and do their job and save the run.

I can understand Yoshi's and the teams desire to keep the stress on new healers to a minimum.
But even if the combat itself during group content was a bit more challenging in terms of incoming damage, said healers would still only have to focus on healing.
As Yoshi and the team wanted them to.

[Katish]

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Please actually read the entire thing...instead of underlining a portion of it. IT IS LITERALLY right on there....there's only three sentences, read!
But I guess trolls can't bother reading things it seems, or else they would understand the healer issues and stop these L takes. Either that or a lack of reading comprehension...I am not sure.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Please actually read the entire thing...instead of underlining a portion of it. IT IS LITERALLY right on there....there's only three sentences, read!
But I guess trolls can't bother reading things it seems, or else they would understand the healer issues and stop these L takes. Either that or a lack of reading comprehension...I am not sure.

Hey, that's lovely. Perhaps I should've never added that red underline to begin with. They are to indicate that it is in SE's own written words that they're -asking- for our feedback. I'm not saying I'm/people only reading what was underlined.