#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Punslinger]

Yes i keep my damage up. no, i don't find it boring because i don't just use 2 skills. that would greatly reduce my damage.

Oh goody, this is the part where non-healers who occasionally cure-spam their way to a free carry through fights get pedantic and pretend that AoEs and one-minute oGCDs are a meaningful part of a single-target damage rotation.

Whm: Assize, Dia, Afflatus Misery, Glare 3, Holy 3

An oGCD you mindlessly smash on-cooldown for the DPS, a single DoT, a damage spell that exists only to ensure that lily heals are DPS-neutral, the one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, and your one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

Sch: Energy Drain, Biolysis, Broil 4, Art of War

An oGCD that exists solely as an Aetherflow dump, a single DoT, the one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, and your one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

Ast: Fall Malefic, Gravity 2, Combustion 3, Stellar Detonation, Macrocosmos, Lord of the Crowns

The one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, your one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations, a single DoT, an oGCD that you'll mindlessly smash on-cooldown for the DPS, another oGCD that you'll have to hold for specific mechanics it can delete with its healing (P3S comes to mind), and an oGCD that you'll sometimes get to weave at random once or twice a minute.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

Sge: Dosis 3, Phlegma 3, Eukrasian Dosis 3, Dyskrasia 2, Toxikon 2, Pneuma

The one button you'll press for 60-90% of the fight, one AoE spell that you'll never use in single-target situations, a single DoT, another AoE spell you'll never use in single-target situations, a third AoE spell you'll never use in single-target situations, and which can only be used if one of your shields breaks, and a fourth AoE spell stapled to a heal with a high MP cost.

This reduces to two buttons being used for the majority of your GCDs.

If you want something different, just play with only half of your healing skills and remove most of your insta heals, or just use only all the upgraded versions of the skills you had in heavensward. Its an option, right?!

BLMs can choose to RP as Ice Mages and ignore half their kit as well. People seem to get a bit cross when you do that in dungeons, though.

Healers should not only be fun if you deliberately gimp your own performance.

[ToodlesElNoodles]

Just to correct (an excellent post), but Macrocosmos and Pneuma are GCDs. Otherwise, nailed the explanation of lackluster/not-engaging DPS options that healers have.

For those who don’t understand Healing: they’re damage neutral. They’re not damage spells. Which is why they don’t count as part of a damage rotation. It just ensures the healer isn’t punishing the party’s DPS output for doing some healing. Same with the Lily and Afflatus Misery spell. It’s not meant for damage, but to recoup the damage lost for using your Lily healing.

[Punslinger]

Just to correct (an excellent post), but Macrocosmos and Pneuma are GCDs, but damage neutral. They’re not damage spells, but a mage neutral spells. Which is why they don’t count as part of a damage rotation. It just ensures the healer isn’t punishing the party’s DPS output for healing.

Otherwise, nailed the explanation of lackluster/not-engaging DPS options that healers have.

Thanks for the correction! I've been a DNC main and haven't touched any healer job in the past five years, so I was relying on a quick skim of the job guide for the newer skills.

[prinny25]

wow this is already at 244 pages I'm impressed

[Ramiee]

I have been playing since 2014 and know the classes all go through changes. I even know that the devs just seemingly can't balance healers. I even know that since shadowbringers that classes been dumbed down.

I still can't wrap my head around this strike. This game don't pay you a living wage and you have freedom to play any class you want.

And that's what theyre doing?
A bunch of healers have decided that the role is bad and aren't doing it anymore and are letting the devs know on the forums. Lets be real the only reason you are against this post existing is because you don't want long queues as a DPS, the you can play any class you want applies to you to? Why don't you play a healer then? You won't because you know its a boring role its as simple as that. Im a DPS main and don't really have a foot in this race and haven't for years now but I don't blame healers for quiting a bad role and then giving the devs feedback (which is the point of these forums.)

(basically saying if the strike made the expansion delayed people will hate healers)

I think you're severely underestimating how much hate healers on here have already got for having an opinion that healers are bad, in fact the entire JP forums are against the EN forums opinions on healers. Not to mention in general healer role despite being arguably the most important role in the trinity has been mocked as the "girlfriend" role since MMOs started. I really doubt any healer mains in this forum would care if people started hating on them if this happened because they be too busy having fun with the fixed role.

Not to mention, you do "strike" and enterprising players will be making a killing on gil selling healer queues.

Ok? Theres a free gil making grind for you to do, go ahead and play healer.
If that happened the devs would be extremely worried they already begged players to try Healers before when healers dropped down in players if it dropped down to the level where people had to be bribed to play the role the devs would probably start panic reworking the role.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

You do use Phlegma in single target, two are supposed to be used in burst and one is held for movement

[ToodlesElNoodles]

Thanks for the correction! I've been a DNC main and haven't touched any healer job in the past five years, so I was relying on a quick skim of the job guide for the newer skills.

I forgot to mention too. Phlegma is actually a high damage Single Target DPS GCD.

So the SGE actually has 3 buttons (Dosis, Eukrasia, Phlegma). However, Phlegma is a 45 sec cooldown though makes it more like Assize, so it’s not exactly a change. Toxikon is damage neutral and serves as a SGE’s mobility tool. You recover it by placing shields on folks during a phase-change when the boss is untargetable.

The new Eukrasia Dyskrasia doesn’t change things much either. You’re still going to be spending your time spamming Dosis, but you’ll now have a 2-1-2-4 (Eukrasia, Dosis, Eukrasia, Dyskrasia) every 30 sec. Which…isn’t that much of an improvement. Eukrasia is actually pretty tedious.

Again, it doesn’t change your main point though. SGE is still just as boring as the other healers, especially since it’s more heavily focused on ogcd healing. If it actually had a DPS rotation while using ogcd heals, it could be interesting, but SE chickened out.

[Lornvene]

I love 1111111 and planning/excute my OGCD heals properly in Savage, Extreme and even Unreal.
Have u guys try doing that?

[DivineP]

I love 1111111 and planning/excute my OGCD heals properly in Savage, Extreme and even Unreal.
Have u guys try doing that?

Have you tried healing a pug in EW trial 2 normal and planning? Maybe a few synced ex? It's not about that, it's about the homogenised kits.

ASTs maleficent used to be 1.5sec, whm glare 2.5sec now they are the same..?

[Katish]

I love 1111111 and planning/excute my OGCD heals properly in Savage, Extreme and even Unreal.
Have u guys try doing that?

And you would still love planning your oGCD heals if your rotation wasn't 1,1,1,1 in savage, extreme, and extreme 1.1 (Unreal). I personally don't find oGCD fun though, have you played Blue Mage, try doing that; then come back here and we can deliberate the issues again.