#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Moonjava]

Given the sheer amount of response this thread has had in a very short amount of time, that should be an indication that a lot of people are very, very unhappy with the status quo.

Relative to the size of the entire playerbase, this is not very significant.

It only raises the ceiling on healers, not the floor. This has been discussed ad nauseum on the healer sub forum for years now. Only in Ex/Savage would it raise the floor, which is where people should be comfortable with their jobs anyway.

It sounds to me like you consider the skill floor in normal content to be basically non-existent, that a healer can AFK at a dungeon entrance and as long as the rest of the group clears the dungeon, that's acceptable. From a purely objective-oriented perspective, that may be true, but in the social context of the game, players expect a certain amount of participation and effort from other players. If I ran a level 90 dungeon on SMN and only clicked Outburst and Ruin III, that would be considered griefing- if healer rotations were put on par with tanks/DPS, only clicking Glare and Holy would similarly be considered griefing, and a lot of players wouldn't take kindly to that. Players who wanted to stick to the old rotation would face social backlash for doing so.

And there's no compelling argument for the current paradigm, all you're doing is going in circles and intentionally being antagonistic over "well, I'm sure SOME like it".

The argument for the current paradigm is that it costs SE nothing to leave it as-is. That is my point. Nobody has given a compelling reason why SE should invest resources into this rework beyond their own personal preference.

[TheDustyOne]

Relative to the size of the entire playerbase, this is not very significant.

The argument for the current paradigm is that it costs SE nothing to leave it as-is. That is my point. Nobody has given a compelling reason why SE should invest resources into this rework beyond their own personal preference.

Guess they shouldn't have fixed issues people had with the benchmark, that was also only a small portion of the playerbase that complained and also cost resources.

A lot of people have issues, they want to see it fixed, resources be damned, that's what our sub should be paying for.

[Moonjava]

Guess they shouldn't have fixed issues people had with the benchmark, that was also only a small portion of the playerbase that complained and also cost resources.

Part of the purpose of the benchmark this time around was to get player feedback on the graphics update. They've been expressly requesting feedback because the graphics update is still a work-in-progress, so they've already budgeted time/resources to it and implementing feedback requires little/no additional investment. They've requested no such feedback on healers nor made any indication that any kind of healer rework is in progress.

A lot of people have issues, they want to see it fixed, resources be damned, that's what our sub should be paying for.

Two can play at this game- a lot of people have zero issues, they don't want to see anything changed, complainers be damned, that's what our sub should be paying for.

[TheDustyOne]

They "asked for feedback" when they gutted Kaiten off of SAM, and they gutted PLD back in 6.3 with far less feedback than this. They take feedback on every aspect of the game, but apparently not healers? Make it make sense.

Two can play at this game- a lot of people have zero issues, they don't want to see anything changed, complainers be damned, that's what our sub should be paying for.

Hence why your arguments are pointless, they're literally circles. You're here only to antagonise and stir the pot without adding anything meaningful.

[Moonjava]

They "asked for feedback" when they gutted Kaiten off of SAM, and they gutted PLD back in 6.3 with far less feedback than this. They take feedback on every aspect of the game, but apparently not healers? Make it make sense.

When did I say you can't give feedback? Give all the feedback you like- if SE agrees and implements the changes you want, then congrats.

Hence why your arguments are pointless, they're literally circles. You're here only to antagonise and stir the pot without adding anything meaningful.

I really don't know how much more clearly I can state my question, but I'll try again. There are two options here:

1. SE changes nothing. People who are happy with the current state of healers stay happy, people who are upset stay upset.
2. SE reworks all healers according to the demands in this thread. Some people who are currently happy with healers become upset, some people who are upset become happy. Some who are currently happy/upset stay that way.

Since we have no way of knowing whether more people would prefer healers to change or stay the same, all we can consider is the relative workloads involved. #1 costs SE nothing; #2 requires significant investment and will come at the cost of other work. What, then, is the justification for demanding SE go with #2?

[HighlanderClone]

Two can play at this game- a lot of people have zero issues, they don't want to see anything changed, complainers be damned, that's what our sub should be paying for.

ok and a lot of people had zero issues with healer gameplay in hw/sb so what's ur point