Let's talk about the upcoming DRG rework...

[HikariKurosawa]

The only thing that will drift when playing properly is GSK because it cannot be queued when exiting LotD. Any other kind of drift is due to player error. DRG is one of the probably few jobs that barely drifts.

The GSK drift is also irrelevant when downtime is involved so it's mostly a minor nuisance in full uptime fights lasting 8+ minutes, which are not too common. It's basically nothing compared to the drift that can affect other jobs, and it would've been fixed with the upcoming new system that couples/decouples related abilities. Changing the CD of GSK so that it's different from the LotD duration was another possibility, and the one that we will ultimately get although I doubt it was due to this particular question.

GSK drifting means high jump and eyes become out of synch with our burst phase lol. Like it's all completely integral to the rotation yet it drifts. It's a little more than a minor nuisance. DRG is one of the few jobs that won't drift after the dawntrail changes, while currently it is one that drifts in a really significant way. I don't get why people are unenthusiastic about the changes because they are pretty much what the job needed to become perfect. To each their own though. There are tons of people on this forum that only engage with the game to be upset about it though so maybe that's the case?

[Aco505]

GSK drifting means high jump and eyes become out of synch with our burst phase lol. Like it's all completely integral to the rotation yet it drifts. It's a little more than a minor nuisance. DRG is one of the few jobs that won't drift after the dawntrail changes, while currently it is one that drifts in a really significant way. I don't get why people are unenthusiastic about the changes because they are pretty much what the job needed to become perfect. To each their own though. There are tons of people on this forum that only engage with the game to be upset about it though so maybe that's the case?

Everything you're saying in this message when it comes to drift is incorrect. Drifting as DRG on a 2.5 GCD speed in particular is due to player error. Anything else is your subjective opinion but not the fact. The GSK drift only starts affecting the rotation (i. e. pushing oGCDs out of buffs) after leaving LotD several times in the fight. This can be further reduced by trying to keep GSK as a late weave from the opener until about the 4-minute mark.

If there were full uptime fights lasting 12:30 or more minutes, it would be relatively noticeable but it would just push 1 or perhaps 2 oGCDs out of 15s buffs, as 20s ones would still be unaffected. And this would happen mostly on the even burst at the 12:00 minute mark. However, as I said previously, these don't exist.

DRG is not a job that drifts at all. Additionally, providing feedback on the changes does not necessarily mean being unenthusiastic. If you got that feeling from me (or other posters although each one will be different), then it means you're not taking your time to read what I'm actually saying.

However, the drift thing (among others) has already been explained to you several times yet you keep repeating the exact same incorrect notions, so I will refrain on commenting on this further.

[HikariKurosawa]

I'm just glad you're not in charge of job design. Maybe you have some weird tricks like delaying your damage spells as a late weave(not possible consistently without using alexander or noclippy which is objectively cheating), but it's a very unintuitive design and when you follow the guides, drift is inevitable after a few LotD cycles. I'm sure that you are using noclippy or alexander and I am sure you will deny it, but try playing dragoon without cheats activated. You don't have to admit it, just try it on your own time and reflect on how the job feels as is. Before the changes come out so you have some perspective.

Dungeon design for dragoon is horrible too with the eye system. Your cooldowns and resources will always be misaligned for both bosses and trash pulls. It is so bad that I think they should add a mechanic in dungeon walls and boss walls that resets all of your cooldowns every time just to make the experience enjoyable. The better your group and your own performance is, the worse it will feel because of the timing of pull kill rates. Either way, it's going to be a lot better when LotD is on a 1 minute cooldown unrelated to mirage dive, but I still think they should do that just to make the game more enjoyable. They did it for raid and trial content between pull attempts when it used to be that cooldowns persisted between attempts. They should do it for dungeon and alliance raid content too between wall to wall sections and boss gates.

[Wildheaven182]

I like being able to compress the number of buttons down since I'm out of hotkeys on my dragoon... but boy does it just look like the most basic beginner level, 1 2 3 4 5 rotation with weaving. Removing the like, side flanking is okay, but I do like some flanking still if they kept the behind flanking. Spineshatter dive not dealing damage is nice since i want to have a gap close. But why not do it like red mage where you have 2 stacks of it? You can keep using one on cd for damage and keep the second stack until the end for when you need to close the gap. I guess it's unique at least. All the name changes on dragoon are stupid though. Blood for blood is cooler than lance charge. But spineshatter dive also doesn't make sense ever since they took away the stun it used to have anyway.

I actually liked eye of the dragon, but I main healer so I'm pretty used to clicking on party members to do stuff. I understand with why it was removed though or whatever, everyone complained about it. Though it made dragoon more unique.
It could certainly be something you put on at the beginning of a duty like dance partner. It might be a copy cat of that but it would be better than nothing.
Life of the dragon should really mean something other than allowing you to use Nastrond since you can just blow all your nastronds at once now.

I really couldn't care less about things lining up. This whole buff alignment talk started way back post HW and it seems to have only been hurting the game ever since. Now people are talking about how it's a problem and the two minute meta is a problem. That is what the source of homogenization is.
I really don't care about some raider who's played the game for 22 thousand hours and how their dragoon rotation gets slightly misaligned after 4 rotations causing them to miss out on that juicy 8 extra potency.

I think dragoon has just been left as a plain canvas. Or perhaps a husk of a job with no identity. Maybe they wanted it to be overly accessible and easier.

[CidHeiral]

Some dude that had to go look up basic functionality of the job after being corrected is now lecturing one of the top DRG players in the world. You can't make this up.

[HikariKurosawa]

Some dude that had to go look up basic functionality of the job after being corrected is now lecturing one of the top DRG players in the world. You can't make this up.

You can be the best player in the world and the worst job designer. Two and two don't go together. Plus can you really be the best when you're using noclippy or alexander? Anyone with a parse that high is undoubtedly using one or the other.

[CidHeiral]

You can be the best player in the world and the worst job designer. Two and two don't go together. Plus can you really be the best when you're using noclippy or alexander? Anyone with a parse that high is undoubtedly using one or the other.

[Emitans]

You can be the best player in the world and the worst job designer. Two and two don't go together. Plus can you really be the best when you're using noclippy or alexander? Anyone with a parse that high is undoubtedly using one or the other.

They could also just... live relatively near the servers? I have less than 30 ping, noclippy and alexander have basically no use for me.

[HikariKurosawa]

They could also just... live relatively near the servers? I have less than 30 ping, noclippy and alexander have basically no use for me.

Sure, removing the animation lock entirely has basically no use regardless of server proximity lol. Anyone parsing that high is competing with people who use those add-ons to the fullest. You can't outskill someone who is cheating on top of playing the job properly. It's not like this game is that hard. The expression of skill is only so high. Which is why parsing is stupid. Just a way for people who cheat to feel good about themselves.

[ThorneDynasty]

I'm only seeing "This message is hidden", but could you please go troll some other job thread than my main for a change? It's getting annoying that people are still actually responding to your nonsense in this one.