#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[BismarckBug]

[*]Lack of threat level in nearly all forms of content.
Healers should feel like they have a place in all forms of content. It is understandable that difficulty can't be so great as to bar progression of story-based content. However, innovative means should still be employed to make greater/full use of abilities.

I have to pull you up on this because I have a feeling that you haven't done all forms of content because this general dissatisfaction does not exactly fit the bill in Savage, Savage Criterion and Ultimate content. Unless you are playing in the most optimal setting (most aren't) and are overgeared for the content (applies to Savage, at which point it's not about job design it's about ilvl bruteforcing) then you are straining your cohealer because they are for sure doing GCD healing which you yourself seem to prefer.

Healers do have a place in all forms of content. Warriors being able to heal a dungeon is an outlier and it's not the preferred way of doing it for everyone. If the TOP group clearing without a healer is going to be used as an example then why is anyone still playing healer? Because it's more optimal in every situation.

If Usain Bolt can run 40km/h, what's the point of cars?

[Rehayem]

I have to pull you up on this because I have a feeling that you haven't done all forms of content because this general dissatisfaction does not exactly fit the bill in Savage, Savage Criterion and Ultimate content. Unless you are playing in the most optimal setting (most aren't) and are overgeared for the content (applies to Savage, at which point it's not about job design it's about ilvl bruteforcing) then you are straining your cohealer because they are for sure doing GCD healing which you yourself seem to prefer.

Healers do have a place in all forms of content. Warriors being able to heal a dungeon is an outlier and it's not the preferred way of doing it for everyone. If the TOP group clearing without a healer is going to be used as an example then why is anyone still playing healer? Because it's more optimal in every situation.

If Usain Bolt can run 40km/h, what's the point of cars?

That's a valid point, but I can ask the same what's the point of cars if we have trains/planes? But the issue goes way deeper than just "ultimate cleared without healers". Refer to this thread for a summary of healer issues.

[BismarckBug]

That's a valid point, but I can ask the same what's the point of cars if we have trains/planes? But the issue goes way deeper than just "ultimate cleared without healers". Refer to this thread for a summary of healer issues.

Just so I'm not misunderstanding your point in reference to my final "food for thought" comment, is your analogy that healers are cars in this scenario and others are trains/planes?

[Rehayem]

Just so I'm not misunderstanding your point in reference to my final "food for thought" comment, is your analogy that healers are cars in this scenario and others are trains/planes?

How is using Usain Bolt and a car as an analogy better? Are you saying healers are Usain Bolt but every other role is a car because they're faster? I fail to understand that. If you have nothing constructive to say, at least have the decency to read the thread I linked earlier so you might actually have an understanding what's going on.

[BismarckBug]

How is using Usain Bolt and a car as an analogy better? Are you saying healers are Usain Bolt but every other role is a car because they're faster? I fail to understand that. If you have nothing constructive to say, at least have the decency to read the thread I linked earlier so you might actually have an understanding what's going on.

I just asked you to elaborate on what you meant lol. Why are you lashing out? I'm well-aware of the complaints healers have with the game and the general dissatisfaction, but I don't agree with it myself. My analogy was related to TOP and solo dungeon where "What's the point of healer if you can do it in this niche situation?" equates to "What's the point of using a car if Usain Bolt can run at 40km/h?"

Sort your attitude out, you not wanting to listen to my opinions does not mean I have nothing constructive to say. I've done every form of content and I am satisfied with the state of healing.

[Rehayem]

I just asked you to elaborate on what you meant lol. Why are you lashing out? I'm well-aware of the complaints healers have with the game and the general dissatisfaction, but I don't agree with it myself. My analogy was related to TOP and solo dungeon where "What's the point of healer if you can do it in this niche situation?" equates to "What's the point of using a car if Usain Bolt can run at 40km/h?"

Sort your attitude out, you not wanting to listen to my opinions does not mean I have nothing constructive to say. I've done every form of content and I am satisfied with the state of healing.

Lashing out? If you can provide proof of me "lashing out" I'd gladly sort that out, but your analogy was completely absurd, and I have already mentioned the issue goes far deeper than just "ultimates cleared without healers".

If you're satisfied with the current state of healers, I don't think this thread is for you, unless of course you're here to provide some high class trolling like some others do here.

[BismarckBug]

Lashing out? If you can provide proof of me "lashing out" I'd gladly sort that out, but your analogy was completely absurd, and I have already mentioned the issue goes far deeper than just "ultimates cleared without healers".

If you're satisfied with the current state of healers, I don't think this thread is for you, unless of course you're here to provide some high class trolling like some others do here.

"Change this role, we're boycotting!" If you want an echo chamber then please let us know in the very beginning. I truly don't want my role changed because people who have never done the hardest content want to change the job for everyone.

[Pandurah]

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When did you start playing, out of interest? Are you a healer main? Only asking because if you're satisfied with the state of healing, there's a chance you're unaware of how much better it was in the past. A lot of the dissatisfaction comes from how healing is now compared to then, and not just healing requirements or dps kits, but altogether. One could argue nostalgia/rose-tints, but unless one has experienced how it used to be, it's hard to pin the outcry on plain nostalgia.
If you're not a healer main, then perhaps your mind has yet to numb to the playstyle. If you are, and you're satisfied, then good for you, I guess :s

[BismarckBug]

When did you start playing, out of interest? Are you a healer main? Only asking because if you're satisfied with the state of healing, there's a chance you're unaware of much better it was in the past. A lot of the dissatisfaction comes from how healing is now compared to then, and not just healing requirements or dps kits, but altogether. One could argue nostalgia/rose-tints, but unless one has experienced how it used to be, it's hard to pin the outcry on plain nostalgia.
If you're not a healer main, then perhaps your mind has yet to numb to the playstyle. If you are, and you're satisfied, then good for you, I guess :s

I started playing at the end of Shadowbringers (.55 or .58 patch, I'm not exactly sure) but I've done the final savage tier savage tier of SHB (I'll say it wasn't real experience though, I was bad and I had echo) and I've been heal maining since then, not missing out on any content at all. I don't know how it was in the expansions before exactly so I will not try to invalidate any of that. I enjoy playing all healers apart from Scholar which I just find boring as a job.