#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[KageTokage]

I find it a touch ironic that WHM is the job that got the semi-spammable OGCD shields instead of...y'know, either of the so-called shield healers, and now they get a chunky AoE shield +regen as their DT capstone ability for reasons.

I think I'd want SGE's Druochole to be a OGCD shield instead of a heal personally to partially rectify that.

[EorzeaWanderer]

I would just like to say to the person who came up with this idea (Gemina), it’s brilliant.

In less than a week this post has generated over 300 posts a day. To those who tell the strikers to do something more productive, what? Post quiet feedback that doesn’t get replied to for 5+ years? They’ve done that.

Calling this a “strike” is genius. It immediately evokes the idea of “we can’t take it anymore.” Everyone knows what it means and the detailed objectives in the first post are crystal clear.

To those who say, “don’t bother striking, get content creators to do something instead.” Seriously, LOL
The strike IS getting content creators to pay attention, on the strikers’ terms.

This will become mainstream knowledge among the player base before long. And I hope that YoshiP takes notice and begins to pepper his interviews and presentations with some inkling of what’s going on.

Healers are an unsatisfying role to play right now, and I believe that the ideas put forth in the initial list will serve to improve everyone’s enjoyment, not just those advocating the strike.

[xbahax92]

You strike if you want to, this lady is not for striking.
Not happy, go and play wow.
You don't pay my sub!!

You dont pay my sub either!!
I dont want to play wow, I play ffxiv!!

[Rosenoire]

I personally don't have an issue with self-heals on a tank. It's when they are so ridiculously powerful as to render the healer useless is where I take issue. The other problem is abilities like Bloodwhetting allow a WAR to heal themselves to full without having to tradeoff their DPS. It is so asinine to me that this even got green-lighted in the first place, and then they actually double-downed on their self-sustain. I'm still over here running my fingers through my hair, mystified.

I can only speak for myself, but I don't even know how someone can play such a busted-arse job with any kind of fulfillment of doing actual tanking.

In my experience, WAR only "renders the healer useless" in some dungeon content. I just ran Dead Ends and being a WAR wouldn't have saved me from dying to the Dooms on the first boss. As I noted previously, I couldn't prevent a wipe on Proto-Carby once the healers went down.

That said, I do find it baffling that Shake it Off got a healing effect, and that Bloodwhetting is "TBN only with heals!" when DRK had Abyssal Drain as our only straight up "press here to heal" button. WAR seems to be the golden child when it comes to tanks, though.

[Saraide]

I would just like to say to the person who came up with this idea (Gemina), it’s brilliant.

In less than a week this post has generated over 300 posts a day. To those who tell the strikers to do something more productive, what? Post quiet feedback that doesn’t get replied to for 5+ years? They’ve done that.

Calling this a “strike” is genius. It immediately evokes the idea of “we can’t take it anymore.” Everyone knows what it means and the detailed objectives in the first post are crystal clear.

To those who say, “don’t bother striking, get content creators to do something instead.” Seriously, LOL
The strike IS getting content creators to pay attention, on the strikers’ terms.

This will become mainstream knowledge among the player base before long. And I hope that YoshiP takes notice and begins to pepper his interviews and presentations with some inkling of what’s going on.

Healers are an unsatisfying role to play right now, and I believe that the ideas put forth in the initial list will serve to improve everyone’s enjoyment, not just those advocating the strike.

Knowledge about this is spreading pretty quickly. It's not often I hear about a forum post from people in my circles who dont pay attention to the forum.

[Supersnow845]

It seems to be spreading through the game as well, I queued for an alliance raid and people were discussing it in chat

[ToodlesElNoodles]

I find it a touch ironic that WHM is the job that got the semi-spammable OGCD shields instead of...y'know, either of the so-called shield healers, and now they get a chunky AoE shield +regen as their DT capstone ability for reasons.

Oh, it’s much worse on the 100 skill front.

Shield healers got pure healing.
SCH: WHM Cure III Spam
SGE: WHM Plenary Indulgence

And the pure healers got mitigations:
WHM: Shields
AST: Tactician

Pure/Barrier Healer split is a complete failure.

[Evergrey]

Even DPS rotations are adjusted to boss timeline to some degree to use up resources before boss becomes un-targetable for mechanics etc.

But most of the time it is practically identical sequence of button presses for everyone involved*. There are differences in fight due to random pick of what boss does but the way it is implemented in FFXIV its just timeline blocks that are alternated/swapped such as P4S dog/snake sections.

*One of the reasons TOP was disliked because crit rng would mess this up, causing variability on what is needed to burst phase before enrage.

I'm sure players who actually play a healer knows better than I do since I don't play healers due to them not being my interested playstyle.
I simply only have my personal impressions and what I can tell how fights are while playing my roles.
With that said, I can't see how healings in a set rotation wouldn't end up with simply over-healer or wasting healing skills during moments when no one's hurt, and so on.
Tanks and DPS will always have something to hit on where healers might not always have someone to heal during a fight, so to me a rotation of healing seems kinda wasted and better used as off-rotation skills used when needed.
So instead the easiest solution to me would simply be to just give healers more damage spells to use during the downtimes between healing.

However, that doesn't mean that one couldn't come up with interesting ways on how healing is done.
Like it could be a healing but with an additional buff to an ally.
That way, even if the heal would end up as 80% overheal the additional effect would still be useful regardless of the amount of healing that ended up getting "wasted".
Shield healers could have so that applying a shield even outside of a non-critical attack could have an effect that when the shield breaks.
One could come up with many ideas and I'm sure that players who play healers have far more ideas than a non healer like me could come up with.

But there's one thing I would say that I think many can agree with, is that the different healer jobs lack their own personality.
And if each healer had a stronger personality apart from one another, one could from there also come up with ideas of how to make them more fun to play fitting with said personality.
Like, lets say a Druid in a game, their concept is build around nature so they have a lot of nature spells and rejuvenation spells but also attacks based around nature that can have different effects on an enemy, like slow, blind, whatever fits the theme.
So I think a stronger job personality would help when brain storming ways to improve each of them.

[Shialan]

The strike IS getting content creators to pay attention, on the strikers’ terms.

The strike didn't even happen yet. Also, I guarantee you that the only people bothering with this are you here in the forum. 99% of the playerbase doesn't care about this shit. Especially since this forum is so much doom posting and trolling.

[Saraide]

The strike didn't even happen yet. Also, I guarantee you that the only people bothering with this are you here in the forum. 99% of the playerbase doesn't care about this shit. Especially since this forum is so much doom posting and trolling.

I've been forum posting for quite a while now and this is getting far more attention than most other threads combined. It's pretty rare to see a forum post breach containment. Usually I have to proactively explain what is happening on the forum but in multiple circles I am in outside of the forum this topic has been brought up without my initiative.