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  1. #391
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by iAxX23 View Post
    Wait, wait, wait.

    You mean to tell me the dedicated 'healer mains' who scream 'you pull you tank', that haven't put any damaging abilities on their bars are on strike?

    I wholeheartedly support your strike. Honestly, you should take it even further and refuse to queue any dungeons as any job, that'll show them.
    The self described healer mains in game are not the same people who complain on the forums. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess it needs to be spelled out for some people.
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  2. #392
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    You know, it warms the heart to see so many people coming into threads with a premise that they disagree with and mock everyone who agrees with the OP.

    Truly the greatest MMO community in the known universe, WoW could never.
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  3. #393
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    Zelahra Virasch
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    2) If #1 isn't possible, make The War Within more popular than Dawntrail. You all will have to go back to WoW where healers actually exist. If #1 is impossible it would likely be due to forays sucking or not even existing, which is typical for Square Enix. No forays would mean that Dawntrail would be worse than both Endwalker and WoW and you can safely leave the game without missing anything.
    WoW healers aren't exactly happy with the state of their game currently either. Just saying.
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  4. #394
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    Nanaki Naki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    You know, it warms the heart to see so many people coming into threads with a premise that they disagree with and mock everyone who agrees with the OP.

    Truly the greatest MMO community in the known universe, WoW could never.
    If they didn't care they wouldn't post. I wouldn't be surprised if some were absolutely petrified that if a strike somehow succeeded they will have to adjust to the changes. Not just changes for healers, even tanks and DPS might have to give up their goodies. The push back from a "laughable" and meaningless strike is very interesting. Obviously the push back is for entertainment value only, surely.

    Doesn't matter which community, they all act the same in the end.
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  5. #395
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakon View Post
    WoW healers aren't exactly happy with the state of their game currently either. Just saying.
    And yet despite spending considerably more time actually healing, WOW healers still have more robust DPS tools than FFXIV does.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

  6. #396
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Meridia Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    If they didn't care they wouldn't post. I wouldn't be surprised if some were absolutely petrified that if a strike somehow succeeded they will have to adjust to the changes. Not just changes for healers, even tanks and DPS might have to give up their goodies. The push back from a "laughable" and meaningless strike is very interesting. Obviously the push back is for entertainment value only, surely.

    Doesn't matter which community, they all act the same in the end.
    As a DPS, I'm all for giving up my mitigation and healing tools. Let the healers handle all the mitigation and healing as far as I'm concerned. Give us more fights with constant bleeds, harrowing hell, etc.
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  7. #397
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    Arcanua Nighte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    It's crazy that people believe him, cause he said the exact same thing before EW and it was a lie then, so there is no reason to believe him now.
    Why do you think everyone is so mad at this point. They're tired of being lied to after he has done so much to fix this game. He's been pretty good about his word so it's not surprising so many are this angry now.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    1: Healers need something to do when they aren't healing, the lousy one button dps experience and occasional second just is not enough.
    2: The sustain of the nonhealer jobs has taken our job from us...which has left us nothing to do besides our lousy one button dps experience.
    3: We do not need most of the healing buttons...a lot of those buttons can straight up be removed or consolidated. Which would be a good thing to consolidate using the new sys.
    4: Pure & Shield means nothing and having any combination of the two is just overkill.

  8. #398
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    After healing all through ShB and EW, I won't be touching the role come DT and will leave them right at lvl 90. Shame, since I've been playing support/healers for more than two decades in MMOs and its my favorite role, but FFXIV's supports is a travesty.
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  9. #399
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    Zelahra Virasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    And yet despite spending considerably more time actually healing, WOW healers still have more robust DPS tools than FFXIV does.
    Yeah it's funny, right?

    The problem WoW healers have is that damage is spiky and unpredictable and stressful to respond to, but they're still expected to contribute DPS while responding to it.

    Then in FF14 damage is predictable and healing becomes easier the more familiar the group is with bloated healing toolkits that are overkill for what they're asked to do, but the DPS rotations are too simple.

    It's like WoW's healers have the toolkit for FF14's fights, while FF14's healers have the toolkits for WoW's fights.
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  10. #400
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    Zolmation Volt
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    Sargatanas
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    This is so stupid lol
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