#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[HyperiusUltima]

Trying to explain the healer role's issues to the general community has been an exercise in frustration. Therefore, I will choose to adopt a "show, don't tell" method starting in DT.

I will start playing tank more often and invalidate as many healers as I can and make all of them as bored as possible so they intimately understand what the issues of the healer role are.

Yeah, and they obviously won't care because they're just there for the dungeon. Doing this will make their brain just turn off and go watch Netflix or something, since they'll think "This is easy." and go on with their day. Of course, FFXIV caters far too heavily to its casual player base and the toxic opinions of some high-end streamers. If the 1 Tank 3 DPS Dungeon Clear from Xeno didn't send a message at the Media Tour? They're never going to fix it.

[Boblawblah]

Yeah, and they obviously won't care because they're just there for the dungeon. Doing this will make their brain just turn off and go watch Netflix or something, since they'll think "This is easy." and go on with their day. Of course, FFXIV caters far too heavily to its casual player base and the toxic opinions of some high-end streamers. If the 1 Tank 3 DPS Dungeon Clear from Xeno didn't send a message at the Media Tour? They're never going to fix it.

Yea, I'm not sure "making casual healers job easy" is going to make them think healers need to be fixed.

[Aravell]

Yeah, and they obviously won't care because they're just there for the dungeon. Doing this will make their brain just turn off and go watch Netflix or something, since they'll think "This is easy." and go on with their day. Of course, FFXIV caters far too heavily to its casual player base and the toxic opinions of some high-end streamers. If the 1 Tank 3 DPS Dungeon Clear from Xeno didn't send a message at the Media Tour? They're never going to fix it.

Sure, the lazy healers won't care one bit. But for some people who want to actually play a healer, they'll very likely start questioning why they're not required to heal, then they'll start digging for information and eventually they'll understand the issues.

That's the goal here. To gain the support of new healers who want to be healing, not to correct the attitude of lazy healers who just want to watch netflix and spam Cure.

[Katish]

Trying to explain the healer role's issues to the general community has been an exercise in frustration. Therefore, I will choose to adopt a "show, don't tell" method starting in DT.

I will start playing tank more often and invalidate as many healers as I can and make all of them as bored as possible so they intimately understand what the issues of the healer role are.

That was my idea as well XD. I will be with you on that. But, more specifically I will be using PF to be removing the healer role as an ask for.

[FairyDJ]

Trying to explain the healer role's issues to the general community has been an exercise in frustration. Therefore, I will choose to adopt a "show, don't tell" method starting in DT.

I will start playing tank more often and invalidate as many healers as I can and make all of them as bored as possible so they intimately understand what the issues of the healer role are.

None of my Characters will be playing Healer this Expansion until I feel like leveling them to 100 and that is specifically through trusts. I want to feel like we matter. And right now watching people clear ults and 24 man without a healer is very telling.

[ForteNightshade]

Trying to explain the healer role's issues to the general community has been an exercise in frustration. Therefore, I will choose to adopt a "show, don't tell" method starting in DT.

I will start playing tank more often and invalidate as many healers as I can and make all of them as bored as possible so they intimately understand what the issues of the healer role are.

This game has done a miraculously job of convincing the general playerbase they need to heal. It never ceases to amaze me when I've left DPS low for a short spell or simply let regens tick everyone up and I either have a panic co-healer spamming Medica or have been outright told "where are the healz!!!!" Far too many players see their HP isn't near full and think the next raidwide will insta-kill them despite it very obviously tickling at best. They simply don't pay attention to the actual damage numbers or assume everything hurts way more than it does. Which, again, downright baffles me.

On the subject of tanking, I remember when EW launched, I did the Warrior nonsense and solo'd Hermis from like 55%. It really irks people but hey, I was curious back then if I could legit pull it off--not yet realizing how hilariously easy it was. Heck, I've had healers whine a little (including friends) because "Warrior really don't need heals..." Maybe we've finally reached the point where even average players have noticed how irrelevant healers have become.

[Rosenoire]

On the subject of tanking, I remember when EW launched, I did the Warrior nonsense and solo'd Hermis from like 55%. It really irks people but hey, I was curious back then if I could legit pull it off--not yet realizing how hilariously easy it was. Heck, I've had healers whine a little (including friends) because "Warrior really don't need heals..." Maybe we've finally reached the point where even average players have noticed how irrelevant healers have become.

I keep seeing people say this, and then I look at my normal roulette run last night, on P5. I was WAR MT and my friend was DRK. Everything was going well until we hit Devour. Both healers and two of the DPS died with Carby at 25%. One DPS died soon after, leaving three of us. I went down first after burning through all my mits, including Holmgang and my self-heals. The other DPS died, and then it was down to my friend the DRK, who made a heroic effort but died before Undead Rebirth kicked in with Carby at 1%.

Yes, occasionally a WAR can solo a dungeon boss from around half health. But the idea that this means healers are obsolete doesn't track with my experience, especially as a DRK main. Currently I have three self-heals: Souleater, the third part of my single-target combo which I don't use onb wall-to-wall pulls because I'm doing my AoE rotation. Abyssal Drain, which is on a 60-second cooldown and shares a recast timer with Carve and Spit; if I use AD on a second w2w pull I won't have C&S for my opener against the next boss. Oh, and there's Living Dead, which is on a 5-minute cooldown and includes three different 10-second phases and most of the time I die anyway. I'm thrilled that Dawntrail includes another self-heal, not because I don't need a healer, but because it makes my favorite tank more viable.

I get that healing is in a bad state, and I think giving healers more of a DPS rotation and having more damage go out in general would be good things. I'd even agree that WAR is overtuned when it comes to self-heals in normal content, but for most tanks the solution isn't to take away our self-sustain abilities, it's to fix the problems with healers.

[Gemina]

I keep seeing people say this, and then I look at my normal roulette run last night, on P5. I was WAR MT and my friend was DRK. Everything was going well until we hit Devour. Both healers and two of the DPS died with Carby at 25%. One DPS died soon after, leaving three of us. I went down first after burning through all my mits, including Holmgang and my self-heals. The other DPS died, and then it was down to my friend the DRK, who made a heroic effort but died before Undead Rebirth kicked in with Carby at 1%.

Yes, occasionally a WAR can solo a dungeon boss from around half health. But the idea that this means healers are obsolete doesn't track with my experience, especially as a DRK main. Currently I have three self-heals: Souleater, the third part of my single-target combo which I don't use onb wall-to-wall pulls because I'm doing my AoE rotation. Abyssal Drain, which is on a 60-second cooldown and shares a recast timer with Carve and Spit; if I use AD on a second w2w pull I won't have C&S for my opener against the next boss. Oh, and there's Living Dead, which is on a 5-minute cooldown and includes three different 10-second phases and most of the time I die anyway. I'm thrilled that Dawntrail includes another self-heal, not because I don't need a healer, but because it makes my favorite tank more viable.

I get that healing is in a bad state, and I think giving healers more of a DPS rotation and having more damage go out in general would be good things. I'd even agree that WAR is overtuned when it comes to self-heals in normal content, but for most tanks the solution isn't to take away our self-sustain abilities, it's to fix the problems with healers.

I personally don't have an issue with self-heals on a tank. It's when they are so ridiculously powerful as to render the healer useless is where I take issue. The other problem is abilities like Bloodwhetting allow a WAR to heal themselves to full without having to tradeoff their DPS. It is so asinine to me that this even got green-lighted in the first place, and then they actually double-downed on their self-sustain. I'm still over here running my fingers through my hair, mystified.

I can only speak for myself, but I don't even know how someone can play such a busted-arse job with any kind of fulfillment of doing actual tanking.

[Ramiee]

I genuinely never thought the biggest issue to any sort of public support for improving healer design would be trying to get the average person to figure out that “more DPS buttons” doesn’t necessarily mean “do more damage”

I thought it was obvious but I’ve been wrong on that front more times than I could possibly count

The reason some people are celebrating BLM losing non-standard was because they didn't want to play it and didn't like that it did like 2% more damage in certain raids. People are always mad about dumb stuff even though its perfectly viable to completely ignore it.

[OliviaLugria]

I genuinely never thought the biggest issue to any sort of public support for improving healer design would be trying to get the average person to figure out that “more DPS buttons” doesn’t necessarily mean “do more damage”

I thought it was obvious but I’ve been wrong on that front more times than I could possibly count

Hahah, it doesn't take much thought to figure out that more damage buttons doesn't equal more damage, but alas here we are XD