#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

There is a chance that you're speaking to the new healer mains on JP who jumped on the boat precisely because it's easy.

I play on JP and this is just my anecdote, but I have noticed some of the good JP healers I've cohealed with in SB are now playing DPS/tanks in PF. It's possible that their good healers quit the role much earlier than some here and the replacements are the people you see posting now[...]

Totally a possibility, yes. Which would've make sense, because the players who loved all those intricacies had been long gone or given up. What's left currently today are... whatever can of worm we've fostered.

[Supersnow845]

I personally dont like the combat in this game so healing has been pretty chill, I quite enjoy it.

So you don’t like the combat in a combat focused MMO so you are drawn to a role that you can basically sleep through and yet we are the pathetic ones for arguing for change, the lack of introspection is impressive at this point

[Zadood]

I mean, good amount of JP forummonger would just shot you down if you try to suggest anything that threatens their smooth sailing dailies clear chances i.e. introducing MP management, triage, etc. It’s no wonder why they want all tanks to be immortal & would rather the green dps bite the bullet of being obsolete.

The thing is, it is INCREDIBLY stressful to live in JP, especially with things like this...

Talking bad about a mega-corpo in JP can actually get you jailed.
Once your public image is ruined, your life would became just as miserable as the prisoner in jail, it's even worse in countryside of the JP, as you legit can get starve to death because no countryside folks will even want to sell food to you.
Heavy sense of social hierarchy means excessive pandering and obedience to any seniors in any field of work, regardless how unreasonable they are.

Now, it's no secret why JP folks don't any more stress in their video game, as video game and anime is pretty much their escape machinism tool.

[Loggos]

While I fully support this I’ve come to realise it’s pointless

And that’s not because of a lack of feedback from us or a lack of visibility on our feedback or anything of that effect

It is simply the fact that healer mains are the only people in the game who even want healers to exist in this game

Ask a DPS, ask a tank, ask anyone who doesn’t have a strong opinion on healers if they prefer the healer healing or the tank doing it for the healer and 99.9% of those people will say they prefer the WAR doing it

That’s why they don’t respond to our feedback, they are designing this game for the majority of people who play who would just prefer it the healer role didn’t exist

Yeah I often get this feeling as well. Healers seem to be a crutch. There's a reason why people are so excited when they can finish content without healers, i.e., "the crutch", and let the "real" jobs, that bring the action (dps and tanks), do the task. And often faster too if they know what they are doing.

Obviously just anecdotal but look at how much Xeno gloated about it being ~man mode~ to clear the dungeon without us feeble silly healers and how we are not f___ing needed.
I know ~man mode~ is his shtick and he has created this whole exaggerated persona around being a WAR main, so I think he's often provocative primarily to get a reaction out of people.
But I do think in a way it describes a wider sentiment in the community regarding the presence of healers in content and how not needing us is a badge of honour and an expression of their superior skill.
In some way (from their perspective), we actively stand "in their way" of that "badge of honour" and their skill expression.

I think this is also facilitated by the speed run mindset and unfortunately in those scenarios healers often slow a good team down because they lack damage.
But, in a trinity-based game content should be designed in a way that the fasted clear can only be achieved with all three roles, meaning bringing the healer is an advantage over bringing another dps or tank.

Only then healers can really be equal, and not just exist as a necessary but annoying crutch to DPS and tanks that they'd like to cast away as soon as they can.

[Kathryn]

So you don’t like the combat in a combat focused MMO so you are drawn to a role that you can basically sleep through and yet we are the pathetic ones for arguing for change, the lack of introspection is impressive at this point

LOL please, This is NOT a combat focused MMO, it's Story-driven and boy I have been playing this game A LOT longer than you so yes, you are the pathetic one, I'm a day 1 1.0 player, and I play this game with my husband, The difference between us, I still play this game for fun, not as a job or my second life or in some cases with a few on this forum their first lives, If I stop enjoying the game, I walk away and come back later on, simple.

[Glenfiddich]

I'm here to support the Idea.
I would also appreciate if Healers could be actual Healers in PvP.

[Zadood]

Yeah I often get this feeling as well. Healers seem to be a crutch. There's a reason why people are so excited when they can finish content without healers, i.e., "the crutch", and let the "real" jobs, that bring the action (dps and tanks), do the task. And often faster too if they know what they are doing.

Obviously just anecdotal but look at how much Xeno gloated about it being ~man mode~ to clear it without us feeble silly healers and how we are not f___ing needed. I know ~man mode~ is his shtick and he has created this whole exaggerated persona around being a WAR main, so I think he's often provocative primarily to get a reaction out of people.
But I do think in a way it describes a wider sentiment in the community regarding the presence of healers in content and how not needing us is a badge of honour and an expression of their superior skill.
In some way (from their perspective), we actively stand "in their way" of that "badge of honour" and their skill expression.

I think this is also facilitated by the speed run mindset and unfortunately in those scenarios healers often slow a good team down because they lack damage.
But, in a trinity-based game content should be designed in a way that the fasted clear can only be achieved with all three roles, meaning bringing the healer is an advantage over bringing another dps or tank.

Only then healers can really be equal, and not just exist as a necessary but annoying crutch to DPS and tanks that they'd like to cast away as soon as they can.

The only way to fix this role mess, is to increase the self sustain of every non-healer job, then fold DNC and BRD with the current 4 healer into a whole new support DPS role, add 2 or more semi-spammable strong party wide healing abilities, then re-tuned the HP of every boss in this game.

While I for one is NOT a big fan of this idea, but this or similiar kind of design seems sustainable for long term, if CBU3 really plan to run FFXIV for a long time that is.

[GoatOfWar]

Support gameplay in general is just getting worse and worse.
Nothing what they showcased made me excited to raid in DT.
They're too affraid of nerfing things in fear of backlash, so they just powercreep the shit out of the game.
I never wanted healing on Drk, it just doesn't make any sense thematically and just makes the game easier for no reason.

[Bun_Vivant]

Mao sad. Mao really likes healers. Thems really great at keepings Mao whats BLMs alive. Mao very upset that healers nots having funs though.

Cheer up, Mao: some of us healer-mains are having plenty of fun. Certainly me on SGE and my spouse on WHM are, or we'd be maining something else on our 11 (combined total) End-of-Content characters. Perhaps it's instructive that I like SGE more than WHM, and my spouse likes WHM more than SGE.

Neither of us is in a static, though. Did that years ago, and it was fun, but we no longer want the responsibility that comes with that.

[Voidmage]

As someone who despises playing healer I also give my support here.
No role should become obsolete, not even in easy content. At least not to this extent.