Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[Anarnee]

The way people conduct themselves and give feedback here compared to the JP thread almost gives me whiplash, to be honest.

I feel like our forums would be fine if people that have nothing to say didn't come in an distract from the conversation. The JP side don't have the same trolls from what I've seen, and people certainly are not telling people that the changes are all in their head.

[Duskane]

I feel like our forums would be fine if people that have nothing to say didn't come in an distract from the conversation. The JP side don't have the same trolls from what I've seen, and people certainly are not telling people that the changes are all in their head.

sadly just how it is when there is major outcry in the community, people walk in just to disagree for attention and don't contribute anything constructive to the discussion.

[Rueby]

I feel like our forums would be fine if people that have nothing to say didn't come in an distract from the conversation. The JP side don't have the same trolls from what I've seen, and people certainly are not telling people that the changes are all in their head.

Hard agree. I feel like alot of people come in with 'it looks the same to me' meanwhile playing a whole different race- provides no feedback and just waters down any feedback thread into an argument on whether or not it is the same. There has been some helpful posts about gamma etc, but most issues seem to stem from SHAPE changes- the light could be hot pink and neon blue and I'd still notice the changes. How would anyone be able to make sense of anything when potential feedback is buried under a mountain of petty arguments. More and more I feel really discouraged by the coming of DT.

[Anarnee]

Hard agree. I feel like alot of people come in with 'it looks the same to me' meanwhile playing a whole different race- provides no feedback and just waters down any feedback thread into an argument on whether or not it is the same. There has been some helpful posts about gamma etc, but most issues seem to stem from SHAPE changes- the light could be hot pink and neon blue and I'd still notice the changes. How would anyone be able to make sense of anything when potential feedback is buried under a mountain of petty arguments. More and more I feel really discouraged by the coming of DT.

Don't feel discouraged. I was getting really stressed by this circus over here so I took the time to go into the JP thread and they have absolutely been giving the same feedback as us. Even me, who has a very specific complaint about Face 2 femroe, found multiple people that made posts about my worries that got a relatively high amount of upvotes. I'm sure that everyone from the more played races will have their complaints either addressed or at least acknowledged. I only went out of my way to read the Roegadyn posts, but I saw so many of other races with detailed pictures and drawings.

My best advice is to report the people being willfully antagonistic, don't reply to them. Upvote folks with good well thought out posts that have shown the issues to make sure those posts get the devs attention, and take care of yourself by walking away from time to time cause it's mentally taxing in here.

[Rueby]

Don't feel discouraged. I was getting really stressed by this circus over here so I took the time to go into the JP thread and they have absolutely been giving the same feedback as us. Even me, who has a very specific complaint about Face 2 femroe, found multiple people that made posts about my worries that got a relatively high amount of upvotes. I'm sure that everyone from the more played races will have their complaints either addressed or at least acknowledged. I only went out of my way to read the Roegadyn posts, but I saw so many of other races with detailed pictures and drawings.

My best advice is to report the people being willfully antagonistic, don't reply to them. Upvote folks with good well thought out posts that have shown the issues to make sure those posts get the devs attention, and take care of yourself by walking away from time to time cause it's mentally taxing in here.

Thank you so much for you kind words honestly. I wonder if any of them complained about the Miqo F4 nose/mouth gap/lip situation, I've been wanting to look at that thread but everytime I open it up I feel exhausted and drained. Some people on this thread and others are providing amazing paint overs etc but it feels like 'unless we're on the JP side of the forums, we're screaming into a void'. I thought about maybe using a translator and collecting what I found and posting it there but I'm honestly really scared of doing that.