Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[GodModule]

I personally think Miqo players are overracting. Call me blind but the new and old are near identical to my eyes, and in most cases the new looks noticebly better.

[LlymlaenGreene]

And yes, to be honest, it is very surprising. And I always think that ff14 has the best community, and that's really true, but in three 3 days on the forum I met and read so many toxic messages that I haven't seen in all the time I've been playing ff14. how glad I am that they are only on the forums, and there are very few of them in the game :3

[moodud]

Came in to say how JP forums works over there is they have one 'official' feedback thread, most people will post high-effort feedbacks with multiple pictures with fair comparisons (same light/angle), pointed out the problems on the pictures (some even with drawings), stating their opinions both good and bad, suggesting how to change or improve, in a clear and constructive way, very politely, and leave.
No quotes. No arguments. No drama. These posts are meant for the devs anyway. No reason to fight.

For example I find this post gives a simple solution to their m viera lips by giving slight gradation retouch on lower lip that could work really well in practical.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6442614

We can totally give helpful feedbacks and comments without hurting any parties. Everyone here are human after all.

[LlymlaenGreene]

at this moment, I'm trying to recreate scenes from the benchmark for a more correct comparison, but please tell me if someone *yes, I already posted this photo, but no one answered * then it's really the same character and whether he received updates. photo in the lobby because now my character looks in the game like in the lobby and even more beautiful in the custscenes, the current version of my character is the top screenshots.

because in my opinion it's just terrible, they literally sat another character * I just want to say monster, sorry* :

[Mosha]

at this moment, I'm trying to recreate scenes from the benchmark for a more correct comparison, but please tell me if someone *yes, I already posted this photo, but no one answered * then it's really the same character and whether he received updates. photo in the lobby because now my character looks in the game like in the lobby and even more beautiful in the custscenes, the current version of my character is the top screenshots.

because in my opinion it's just terrible, they literally sat another character * I just want to say monster, sorry* :

With all due respect, this is what people mean by bad comparisons.

[LlymlaenGreene]

With all due respect, this is what people mean by bad comparisons.

everything is fine! now I'm in the process of producing scenes from the benchmark, because there the character looks the most changed, not just the little things, but the whole facial expression



I am not an expert in the field of beauty, but now she looks flatter, tired, the last character radiates kindness and looks pretty, with a mischievous nose and plump cheeks :3

[WiccaP]

at this moment, I'm trying to recreate scenes from the benchmark for a more correct comparison, but please tell me if someone *yes, I already posted this photo, but no one answered * then it's really the same character and whether he received updates. photo in the lobby because now my character looks in the game like in the lobby and even more beautiful in the custscenes, the current version of my character is the top screenshots.

because in my opinion it's just terrible, they literally sat another character * I just want to say monster, sorry* :

To me, the top picture looks more lifeless and doll-like than in the benchmark. The mouth is more narrow from side to side and the shine and highlight mark look painted on and the irises of the eyes look like a porcelain doll. In the benchmark, the character looks more realistic. The mouth, in this instance, looks like it sits more naturally in the facial structure, there's more depth and shadow in the browbone and the freckles look less like dots on the put on the face and more like freckles. The best way I could put it, is the benchmark looks like she could be a real person and more relaxed while the top picture reminds me of M3gan, supposed to look real but doesnt.

[LlymlaenGreene]

Thank you, I appreciate your answer, what different opinions we have. That's probably why it looks new to me now, because they made it more realistic. But that's just one screenshot, she actually looks very emotional *to me* in the cut scenes :3

But the new character in the cutscenes of the benchmark looks as if with a strained face and a smile

[WiccaP]

Thank you, I appreciate your answer, what different opinions we have. That's probably why it looks new to me now, because they made it more realistic. But that's just one screenshot, she actually looks very emotional *to me* in the cut scenes :3

But the new character in the cutscenes of the benchmark looks as if with a strained face and a smile

No problem, when people first started posting about the graphics update, I had the opinion that a lot of people were over reacting. But after going through the benchmark multiple times and reading some of the less inflammatory responses, I see where people are coming from more. Just out of curiosity, the first time you ran the benchmark, did you try to recreate your character or try it with the stock model or create something new? Like I tried the female Hroth first and then tried other models before running it as one that resembles what my current WoL looks like. I have a theory that those who are having the most issues with the graphics update tried to recreate their WoL for the first benchmark and created an almost Uncanny Valley experience. Im wondering if experiencing the graphics with a character that isn't supposed to look like your character first sort of eased people in and the changes wouldn't seem as jarring.

[CidHeiral]

when people first started posting about the graphics update, I had the opinion that a lot of people were over reacting. But after going through the benchmark multiple times and reading some of the less inflammatory responses, I see where people are coming from more.

There being legitimate issues and people overreacting aren't mutually exclusive.

It is true that there are problems that should be fixed like the lala upper lip, catgirl fangs, and a number of other little details.

It is also true that people are posting hysterical unhinged comments and comparisons of their "ruined" characters that look practically identical.

I am quite pleased with how the face I use turned out, but it has what I perceive to be a big problem with the lower lip that I would like to see fixed. I could probably zoom in and find a number of other differences, but to imply she looks unrecognizable would be insane. Before anyone says "but your face is one of the good ones" I literally saw a post a minute ago on this forum of someone who hates how this face turned out lol.

Trolling people posting their concerns isn't productive (and no, someone simply disagreeing with you isn't trolling) but neither is saying your benchmark catgirl with a slightly different mouth is an "unrecognizable disgusting joker freak."