Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[TheDruidOcelot]

What all these threads are telling me is that a goodly proportion of the population have prosopagnosia. Some of the arguments about the faces has me wondering "how can you not see the blatantly obvious differences?"

that's the funny (not ha ha funny, more like. mmmm funny) thing to me. i HAVE prosopagnosia, but it doesn't really affect highly stylized art styles (for me, different people have different severity) ESPECIALLY when you isolate individual facial features on a drawing or 3d model. like. once its on its own its so obvious. I HAVE To assume its some sort of just willful attitude to make people feel like theres nothing they can do because people are i guess, annoyed that people aren't happy with what looks to be a slapdash, rushed job done on too short of a timeframe to do what was promised.

[seolhyun]

What all these threads are telling me is that a goodly proportion of the population have prosopagnosia. Some of the arguments about the faces has me wondering "how can you not see the blatantly obvious differences?"

to me it seems like tons of ppl actually cant tell that the lighting is different. there are some obv changes like eye and mouth shapes but some are like bro turn ur character around

[Iscah]

to me it seems like tons of ppl actually cant tell that the lighting is different. there are some obv changes like eye and mouth shapes but some are like bro turn ur character around

"Only looks good in the right lighting" is not a solution. I don't want my character to look like someone else every time they turn around or step into a shadowed area.

[Scintilla]

"Only looks good in the right lighting" is not a solution. I don't want my character to look like someone else every time they turn around or step into a shadowed area.

Because that wasn't the case already, right?




I'm sorry, there are some valid points from players which I do totally understand. There are some changes which I question why they were done. And there are changes to my own characters which I dislike (I will definitely be using Fantasia to change my female Viera's eye colour. Possibly more if I find there are other small tweaks I can make to get her looking more like I imagine her to. And my male Viera might be going for a complete race change, but still undecided on that. My Midlander and Miqote will likely stay as they are). But the hysteria in a few of these posts is far overdone: "My character is a totally different person. They look nothing like they used to" - the only difference? A slightly rounder appearing jawline, partially due to the softening of the shadows there, which you have to look very hard to see anyway.

I'm not saying that there aren't some valid points being made. I do sympathise with some points made, for example hair highlights having been altered, race-specific features changed, 'bald patches' on some male characters, neck seams visible etc. However, some complaints are definitely being blown far out of proportion. This, alongside increasing hostility towards anyone who says the forbidden word 'lighting', is making me quickly lose what sympathy I had.

Sadly, they will never please everyone.
Some complain of skin being too plastic and doll-like. Others complain it's too textured.
Some complain it ages their character. Others complain it makes their characters look like children
Some complain of dimples now being far more noticeable. Others complain their dimples are now too subtle and/or unnoticable.

If they 'fix' one of these issues for one person, it will be considered worse by someone else. Yes, there are things which have been widely criticized by most, but we do still need to compromise a little more than some seem to be willing to.

[twobear]

Because that wasn't the case already, right?

Thankyou for this. It's quite flabbergasting to see some people start referring to the lighting update as not an improvement given how easy it is in the current version to make your character look like a space alien.

[twobear]

What all these threads are telling me is that a goodly proportion of the population have prosopagnosia. Some of the arguments about the faces has me wondering "how can you not see the blatantly obvious differences?"

I think most of us who think you guys are wildly overreacting can see the differences, we simply disagree that they are 'huge' and 'completely ruin' the character, who is now 'unrecognisable'. If I have to look at two more pictures of 99% identical catgirls and be told that they 'don't even look remotely similar' I will spontaneously combust.

[AirisRay]

I think most of us who think you guys are wildly overreacting can see the differences, we simply disagree that they are 'huge' and 'completely ruin' the character, who is now 'unrecognisable'. If I have to look at two more pictures of 99% identical catgirls and be told that they 'don't even look remotely similar' I will spontaneously combust.

Please, try to tell me that they are similar.



Seriously, I'll be very surprised if you say that. I will be very surprised if anyone even says this. And I’m most surprised that whoever did this didn’t see it himself.
I'm surprised I have to even be here on this forum trying to get my posts noticed so they can fix it.

Yes, they did the environment beautifully, as far as I can tell from what I've seen. For example, the flowers are beautiful. But I don't play for the flower. I played my character, who is now objectively broken.

I'm sure our characters should have been a priority during the graphics update. For many of us, this is the most important part of the game. They said it was just as important to them. That they will approach this issue very delicately and will attach great importance to it. I believed them and did not doubt their words for a second...

[slippdipp]

Please, try to tell me that they are similar.



Seriously, I'll be very surprised if you say that. I will be very surprised if anyone even says this. And I’m most surprised that whoever did this to her didn’t see it himself. Perhaps he did it blindfolded, with his left leg? I don't know.
I'm surprised I have to even be here on this forum trying to get my posts noticed so they can fix it. I'm shocked that the people who do this work did it so mediocrely in my case.

Yes, they did the environment beautifully, as far as I can tell from what I've seen. For example, the flowers are beautiful. But I don't play for the flower. I played my character, who is now objectively broken and disfigured.

I'm sure our characters should have been a priority during the graphics update. For many of us, this is the most important part of the game. They said it was just as important to them. That they will approach this issue very delicately and will attach great importance to it. I believed them and did not doubt their words for a second. But at this point, I no longer trust a single word they say.

She got dimples, otherwise she looks the same? The lips, again, are universally a problem, but she genuinely looks the same. I say this as an artist too. Please, step away and take a few days break because you and a lot of people in this thread are very obviously overanalyzing the littlest differences and blowing them up in your mind.

[Tethan]

Please, try to tell me that they are similar.

The changes around the mouth are very startling, there is also a huge gap between your face and the hair on lower right pic. It really is rough.

[Somnolence]

Please, try to tell me that they are similar.

What is with gap in the head showing sky under??