Viera Changes

[RulerKelso]

As I already said, easiest fix would be to drop out Viera graphical update and retain the original look for this one race.

In current game version, this race looks great compared to all older races, all faces looks perfect in my opinion and everyone I know is satisfied with how the Viera looks. They have this specific charm which is lost in DT benchmark tool.

Is there someone who thought Viera needed any graphical "uplift"? Whose great idea it was?

On the other hand, kudos to all that beautiful enviroments and water, game finally advancing into 21 century ... within engine limitations of course
Also some older races benefited from this rework. Hyurs, Lalas, miqotes looks great in the new graphics.
Of course, these was also affected with minor changes on face, mainly the lips.
But I guess lips will be fixed until release, it looks like a common bug across all races.

This Viera fiacso however - I can imagine many Viera mains will not be excited for DT, including me
I dont think this will be fixed until DT release in 2 months, so best solution would be to exclude Vieras as a most negatively affected race from this update, or at least postpone it until devs squash all the bugs.

[DiaDeem]

Easiest fix would be to drop out Viera graphical update and retain the original look for this one race.

In current game version, this race looks great compared to all older races, all faces looks perfect in my opinion and everyone I know is satisfied with how the Viera looks.

Sorry, no. I don't agree, and as you said: Everyone I know thinks the race looks better with the upgrade.

The issue with either of us saying that is that it doesn't really mean anything. Also, I could begin to tell you why the upgrade looks so much better to me, but I won't because I know for a fact I won't convince you.

That said, your suggestion of completely excluding Viera from the update is ludicrous.

Here's the solution: Compromise. We should have the upgrade. They should iterate based on feedback.

You'd be surprised at how amazing compromises can be when you have opposing arguments trying to meet in the middle.

[RulerKelso]

Sorry, no. I don't agree, and as you said: Everyone I know thinks the race looks better with the upgrade.

The issue with either of us saying that is that it doesn't really mean anything. Also, I could begin to tell you why the upgrade looks so much better to me, but I won't because I know for a fact I won't convince you.

That said, your suggestion of completely excluding Viera from the update is ludicrous.

Here's the solution: Compromise. We should have the upgrade. They should iterate based on feedback.

You'd be surprised at how amazing compromises can be when you have opposing arguments trying to meet in the middle.

Sure, I respect your opinion But as I said, there is just not enough time to fix this. I see lots of glaring problems with new Viera appearance and DT is just around the corner.

as you said: Everyone I know thinks the race looks better with the upgrade.

Well I did not know you and your opinion before, so now I know your thoughts on this matter.
You are probably one of the lucky ones, whom character was not devoid of its soul and sparkle. And Im glad for you. Have a nice evening

[DiaDeem]

Well I did not know you and your opinion before, so now I know your thoughts on this matter.
You are probably one of the lucky ones, whom character was not devoid of its soul and sparkle. And Im glad for you. Have a nice evening

I want everyone to be happier with their characters. Yesterday I mentioned I hoped they had given us access to the characters earlier to have more time to iterate. If they really made their characters easier to work on (part of why they wanted to do the update) I can only hope they can implement feedback-based changes sooner for everyone.

[Rugno]

I want everyone to be happier with their characters. Yesterday I mentioned I hoped they had given us access to the characters earlier to have more time to iterate. If they really made their characters easier to work on (part of why they wanted to do the update) I can only hope they can implement feedback-based changes sooner for everyone.

Keeping my fingers crossed that 2 months is enough time to implement a reasonable amount of changes. I did not expect the raid tier of this expac to be the character creator (savage).

[DiaDeem]

Keeping my fingers crossed that 2 months is enough time to implement a reasonable amount of changes. I did not expect the raid tier of this expac to be the character creator (savage).

Well... if memory serves, one reason for the update was to streamline the way the models were constructed within the engine to expedite stuff like Hroth/Viera hairstyles and our hats. I'm hoping that if this is true, that they can also iterate quickly on the characters based on feedback so the update pleases as many people as possible.

[VerdeLuck]

As I already said, easiest fix would be to drop out Viera graphical update and retain the original look for this one race.

In current game version, this race looks great compared to all older races, all faces looks perfect in my opinion and everyone I know is satisfied with how the Viera looks. They have this specific charm which is lost in DT benchmark tool.

Is there someone who thought Viera needed any graphical "uplift"? Whose great idea it was?

On the other hand, kudos to all that beautiful enviroments and water, game finally advancing into 21 century ... within engine limitations of course
Also some older races benefited from this rework. Hyurs, Lalas, miqotes looks great in the new graphics.
Of course, these was also affected with minor changes on face, mainly the lips.
But I guess lips will be fixed until release, it looks like a common bug across all races.

This Viera fiacso however - I can imagine many Viera mains will not be excited for DT, including me
I dont think this will be fixed until DT release in 2 months, so best solution would be to exclude Vieras as a most negatively affected race from this update, or at least postpone it until devs squash all the bugs.

They don't need to be excluded from the update, but they need more attention because the current iteration of these updates absolutely butchered male viera's appearance.

[DiaDeem]

They don't need to be excluded from the update, but they need more attention because the current iteration of these updates absolutely butchered male viera's appearance.

Here, compromise.

[krawps]

i was so upset with the changes i had to search and see if other people were as well. the little bunny nose and dark shadow around the eyes is just completely gone. the shine to the hair and eyes as well. actually awful