Viera Changes

[FoxyTime]

For me the lips are the things that need the most work.
I use face 2 and it looks like the lipstick doesnt line up with the actual lips. Looks very wierd. And also the details of the upper lips is gone its just a straight line and doesnt look realistic.

And the thicker default eyeliner is too much
my Viera doesnt look like herself like that

[NorthernLadMSP]

Before



After

[deadwitt]

I'm not happy with the changes at all.

Loaded character data and didn't change a single thing. My character looks different enough to the point where I will have to adjust all the colours and change facial features.




The lip colour and the nose smudge (which was cute before) is incredibly dark.
The lighting makes the same skin and hair colours look entirely different.
The eye shine is gone in some angles, and hard to notice in others. So lifeless. The texture of the skin is also uncanny like wax or resin.
My eyebrows are gone?! Please put them back

[deadwitt]

Posting this on behalf of a friend who doesn't have access to the forums.

[manakir-kan]

The biggest change that I'm not liking is how the dark nose option is not as dark anymore after the update, at least on Face 1 Rava.



The dark nose color looks to be barely there (if at all) in the update. I like how much darker the nose looks currently (in 6.58).

Another point of feedback for improvement that others have echoed has to do with the eyes. I'm sure the improved lighting has a role to play in this, but the newer eyes don't seem to have as much depth to them.

[jpmeyer]

PLEASE GO BACK!!!!

[Alahria]

I'm devastated, personally. This is awful.

[Taliriah]

People are way too fixated on details. There's a million little things that looked awful in the old characters that everyone have learned to overlook but trust me, once you're used to the new ones, when you look at old screenshots or videos you'll wonder how you ever felt it looked ok before 7.0. Some of the biggest changes on my char actually are improvements on things I didn't actually like but had gotten used to.

Perhaps they could tone down the skin reflectivity a little bit (I can see why they did it - real skin is always a little bit oily and photorealistic skin shaders usually incorporate that by adding a little amount of reflectivity, but it might be overtuned here or even unecessary given the less than realistic art direction), then again it's only a problem in some of the character creation scenes, which may not even have been reworked.

[Lyth]

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It's not really 'fixation.' Your fusiform cortex's entire existence is built around processing facial features (see: pareidolia) so that you can actually identify who people are. It's not at all surprising that even slight variations can leave people with a subconscious sense that something feels 'off'.

While there are some issues around color lighting changes and skin 'warmth', I think the most noticeable change is in the mouth design, especially in the upper lip. There's a natural bow-shaped dip on the upper lip just below the philtrum where the lip fuses during development, but it's not preserved on the bottom aspect of the upper lip on the new models. The previous artist seems to have picked up on this anatomical feature, but whomever designed the newer model did not. I think a lot of people have independently picked up on this.

[Taliriah]

It's not really 'fixation.' Your fusiform cortex's entire existence is built around processing facial features (see: pareidolia) so that you can actually identify who people are. It's not at all surprising that even slight variations can leave people with a subconscious sense that something feels 'off'.

Having experienced character graphic updates in other games I guarantee you that anything that feels off now will not fell off anymore after a week or two post 7.0 release. And there are much more offensive defects in the current characters (for example the extremely hard lighting on the skin) that you have learned not to pay attention to anymore.