Viera Changes

[OgruMogru]

I'm really happy with my bunboy overall and I don't understand how seemingly only my character's lips did not get mutilated beyond recognition [had to stop to put Ween on]

that being said I really want them to do something about the altered highlight patterns on certain hairstyles. For me It looks like there's a whole chunk of white highlight missing from the front of the hairline. You can even see one strand just cuts off and it's making the hair look like it's just been AI upscaled with no oversight >.>

I'd prefer it if the devs could address the beesting mouths [not mine tho, i'm happy with mine!] and the backlit skin first but I would love to see it fixed - I can't cover it up with a hat after all!

[Kouren]

I'm really happy with my bunboy overall and I don't understand how seemingly only my character's lips did not get mutilated beyond recognition [had to stop to put Ween on]

that being said I really want them to do something about the altered highlight patterns on certain hairstyles. For me It looks like there's a whole chunk of white highlight missing from the front of the hairline. You can even see one strand just cuts off and it's making the hair look like it's just been AI upscaled with no oversight >.>

I'd prefer it if the devs could address the beesting mouths [not mine tho, i'm happy with mine!] and the backlit skin first but I would love to see it fixed - I can't cover it up with a hat after all!

Is this Face 2, by chance? Many of us complaining about the botched mouths are Face 3 players, though Face 4 for M Viera was dramatically impacted too.

Your character's lips also seem darker than they used to be, but the shape change looks much less dramatic than I've seen in my character.

[OgruMogru]

Is this Face 2, by chance? Many of us complaining about the botched mouths are Face 3 players, though Face 4 for M Viera was dramatically impacted too.

Your character's lips also seem darker than they used to be, but the shape change looks much less dramatic than I've seen in my character.

I'm using face 2, yeah! Overall I think the changes to the lips I used [4? i think?] were positive and the cupid's bow bit in particular looks much better. I did have to change the lip colour as even with the same settings the lips were like a gnarly dark red like they were grazed up. Had to swap to a flat grey to get a similar colour. Literally the only change I had to make though for me my problems begin and end with the wonky hair.

[Kouren]

I'm using face 2, yeah! Overall I think the changes to the lips I used [4? i think?] were positive and the cupid's bow bit in particular looks much better. I did have to change the lip colour as even with the same settings the lips were like a gnarly dark red like they were grazed up. Had to swap to a flat grey to get a similar colour. Literally the only change I had to make though for me my problems begin and end with the wonky hair.

Oof, I'm not surprised the color was way off at first. The lips seem way darker than they used to be across the board. I had Lip Color turned off on my character and had to enable it just to try and get close to what I had before. (Which I was willing to consider only because 'Lip Color' doesn't come with a super glossy effect anymore. Not sure what I'll do if they add back the glossiness but don't adjust the color.) Glad to hear the changes to the mouth shape worked out for the better, though! I honestly hadn't really looked at the other faces outside what I've seen here. Too devastated by my poor Face 3 bun.

[dolldemons]

left is current graphics, right is 7.0



this is nose 6 i believe? on face 1 male viera, and i know they wanted to smooth the models a bit to make it higher quality, but i feel like they've smoothed things down a bit TOO much, and it's removed much of the personality and uniqueness in some of the facial features. i really like the little nose bump and pointed end of this nose, but now it looks so rounded, and it gives off a completely different feel the dark nose marking is also barely visible, and i'd like to see it restored to its original colour

[MKShdowZX]

I do appreciate all the work the devs did with the update but I agree with a lot of the complaints here.

The eye tattoo (Tattoo 1) is a lot lighter compared to before, the nose is a bit too dark (I didnt choose the darken nose option for this either and it also still looks too dark even in the light), and the lips without the gloss is very bland/strange.

Old (Left) - 7.0/New (Right)

I hope someone from Square can pass a lot of the comments from here to the team or I hope JP is also giving the same kind of feedback about Vieras on their side.

[hibikinbingung]

I am honestly baffled by the changes... My Viera is one of those affected by this and I'm not happy at all.

Top is the current and bottom is the one in the benchmark




He completely lost his cute and soft vibes, skin color became yellowish compared to the pinkish in the previous one. His beauty mark is gone and don't get me started on the lips... I really do wish they somehow fix this whether it's sooner or later just give me back my soft cute pretty bunboy...

[naturenstuff]

I'm very pleased with the changes made to my female Miqo'te (face 4), but my Viera definitely suffered. I'm being slightly over-dramatic, but her mouth shape is wrong now, she lost most definition and the little dip that the top lip usually has. The coloring on her nose also seems to have been made worse, I've seen posts about this issue for male Viera as well.
Also, I believe that there's some kind of bug where all Viera are using Rava pupils, because this doesn't seem "Veena" to me.

[FayeStorms]

This is my first time using the official forum so pardon if the format comes off looking odd but i really gotta get this out of my system

Adding in my girls (Top/Left is Current, Bottom/Right is Benchmark)
For reference sake, I'm using Face 1 with Eye 3 and Mouth 4 options (Rava) and Face 1 with Eye 4 and Mouth 4 (Veena)
Using Max Graphics settings as well


Rava



Veena




The prominent features that can be seen are the eye shape and the mouth shape for both buns. I will be using my Rava as examples in the images below:

EYES (this is WITH facial features + eyeshadow facepaint)



EYES (this is WITHOUT facial features + eyeshadow facepaint)



Mouth/Lips



I have tried using them in the benchmark cutscenes and while yes, it does look better in comparison to the CC, it doesn't change that our Vieras eye and mouth shapes are changed and it does irk me....
Hopefully they would take a look into the forums and are able to change!

[VentVanitas]

after keeping track of this thread and seeing all of the male viera that were done dirty from the update, I was very afraid on how my main would turn out.



all things considered though, I got off incredibly lucky. he's practically untouched outside of a few minor gripes. not a fan of how lips are handled, but I can live with it because the shape didn't change that much. I was always impartial on the rabbit nose, but I can completely sympathise with people being upset at its current implementation because it looks pretty scuffed. eyebrow roots definitely need to be darker/thicker all round though, they appear to be very thin for most chars I've seen in general.

my condolences to everyone that was wronged by the graphics update, and I hope SE can make changes to not alienate so many people. I haven't seen general discussion this hopped up like... ever.