Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
We've come back to "talk about plugins is against the rules, but also we won't actually do anything about it"
Except this is objectively untrue when people do actually get banned for talking about plugins in the sub discord. You on the other hand are pointing to all the people who didn't get banned and say that the entire discord promotes automation.

Either way I don't care about plugins, the problem is fight club and everything it incentivizes.
What does Fight Club incentivize?

House hoarding?

Even in this thread it has already been pointed out: the root cause of insufficient mediums/larges is artificial scarcity created by SE

There never would have been insufficient supply if SE had gone for fully instanced housing right from the start.

There currently isn't a shortage of small plots even on populated SE servers. My own server has ~134 small plots available. Both personal/FC. Many of which have not had a single bid in months. Coeurl is considered a highly populated server. Even had the Congested label on it, until relatively recently.

The 2 main groups of multi-house owners:
1. House/dream plot collecters
2. Sublords - mostly go for uncontested small FC plots

These 2 groups might overlap often but the distinction is important.
The house collecters would hoard even without the FC workshop - so a submarine nerf is not going to suddenly free up their housing collections.

The sublords who are in it purely for the gil usually go for uncontested Goblet FC small plots.

Some might ask what about the RMT house sellers?
I'm not addressing those simply because RMT is clearly against SE's TOS.

Currently when many players complain, there are not enough houses, they are complaining that there are not enough mediums/larges.

Again the root cause is SE's decision to go with artificial scarcity.

House hoarding would not be an issue if there was unlimited supply or close to.
RMT house selling is profitable because of the artificial scarcity.