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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The "sublords" aren't reselling their houses. If they were into resale, they wouldn't bother setting up workshops. It takes longer to get a workshop generating a decent profit than it would take to sell the house. Unlocking sectors takes time. Ranking up the subs high enough to get the necessary stats to make routes like Fight Club worthwhile takes time.

    It's time that doesn't exist if the point is to resell the house. Resellers don't want to be sitting on a house for 6-7 months.
    Exactly. And removing the submarine money would only encourage sublords to swap tactics and make gil with resales of mediums and larges. That can be done every 30 days if there are no submarines being built. They probably have a hundred characters to enter the bidding game with, are people sure they want to compete with that instead of them simply continuing to make money with unwanted small houses?

    Mounts, minions and other goods from voyages sell for peanuts in comparison and would make this content not worth the tens of millions of gil and months of work it takes to even get started. Unless... the drops were unique and untradable, so that finishing the voyage yourself was the only way to obtain them. Fcs could utilize the rank system to allow all their members to benefit. I could add a few rare mounts to my collection and they would be worth the investment, if gil was out of the picture.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 04-11-2024 at 06:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Exactly. And removing the submarine money would only encourage sublords to swap tactics and make gil with resales of mediums and larges. That can be done every 30 days if there are no submarines being built. They probably have a hundred characters to enter the bidding game with, are people sure they want to compete with that instead of them simply continuing to make money with unwanted small houses?

    Mounts, minions and other goods from voyages sell for peanuts in comparison and would make this content not worth the tens of millions of gil and months of work it takes to even get started. Unless... the drops were unique and untradable, so that finishing the voyage yourself was the only way to obtain them. Fcs could utilize the rank system to allow all their members to benefit. I could add a few rare mounts to my collection and they would be worth the investment, if gil was out of the picture.
    "Let them keep ruining the game or else they will get angry and ruin it even more"
    Might as well also let the limsa sewer bots out too, they cheat as much as the the "sublords" I didn't choose that name btw, I prefer to call them"suspiciously adjacent to RMT person"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Removing fight club would absolutely free up future larges and mediums because many of those are tied to the longcon sub resale scheme. There is absolutely no reason for them to stick to smalls when resale value is astronomical, they are incentivized to double dip. The larger the sublord entity becomes the more bids they get to bid, win and upgrade into a large to then resell for a gil cap.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    "Let them keep ruining the game or else they will get angry and ruin it even more"
    You have never once explained how submarines "ruin the game", only how reselling does. Removing fight club would not remove the ability to upgrade to mediums and larges for the purpose of reselling them, so no mediums or larges would be freed up. Use logic please.
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