Cure and it's Equivalents need to be axed

[Gordita]

So reduce the cast time by 0.5 seconds...

That's not a solution, as everything comes with a price. Reduce cast time means reduced potency, means more complaints and nothing changes.

Want a real solution to this and many other problems regarding playstyles? Educate your fellow gamers, be polite and friendly. If they spaz or act poorly that's on them. Don't just start complaining about stuff and say delete this delete that. It's a social focus MMO, and back in SB days people used to actually teach people things and do things effectively. Now everybody uses Band-Aid solutions and spreads misinformation then complains when the average player underperforms. It's on all of us to make it better, not for us to riot on the forums about something so bloody trivial

[Supersnow845]

That's not a solution, as everything comes with a price. Reduce cast time means reduced potency, means more complaints and nothing changes.

Want a real solution to this and many other problems regarding playstyles? Educate your fellow gamers, be polite and friendly. If they spaz or act poorly that's on them. Don't just start complaining about stuff and say delete this delete that. It's a social focus MMO, and back in SB days people used to actually teach people things and do things effectively. Now everybody uses Band-Aid solutions and spreads misinformation then complains when the average player underperforms. It's on all of us to make it better, not for us to riot on the forums about something so bloody trivial

We are in a situation where the playerbase and square enix are n a race to the bottom to see how bad people can play while square desperately tries to baby proof every job, what are we really supposed to do when people don’t want to learn and square designs jobs around these people

Hell there is a person on this exact forum who when the discussion centres around “cure 1 is near useless use cure 2 if you desperately need to use single target GCD healing” decided to reply with “I shouldn’t have to get any better at my job to play the game”

Legit what are we supposed to do against people who think like this considering they seem to be the only people square listens to

[Gordita]

We are in a situation where the playerbase and square enix are n a race to the bottom to see how bad people can play while square desperately tries to baby proof every job, what are we really supposed to do when people don’t want to learn and square designs jobs around these people

Hell there is a person on this exact forum who when the discussion centres around “cure 1 is near useless use cure 2 if you desperately need to use single target GCD healing” decided to reply with “I shouldn’t have to get any better at my job to play the game”

Legit what are we supposed to do against people who think like this considering they seem to be the only people square listens to

Most people aren't like that , but I see your point. I've witnessed it going downhill since shb. I've played longer than that. And it gets worse every day. I'm literally suffering mentally and emotionally because of it. But all we can do is like I said, and most ppl will receive the advice well. Some won't, but can't let that ruin us

[Kewitt]

Cure is 500 potence for 400 mp with a chance of free cure 2.
Cure 2 is 800 potency for 1000 mp.
I am more likely to run out of map spamming DPS spells then I am healing but when I do randomly forget to lucid dream or don't have assize up cure 1 has come to save the day.
Normally this isn't an issue outside of EX content. But in Current EX connect I've run out of MP as a whm with a longer fight when I forget to manage my mp correctly.

[Supersnow845]

Cure is 500 potence for 400 mp with a chance of free cure 2.
Cure 2 is 800 potency for 1000 mp.
I am more likely to run out of map spamming DPS spells then I am healing but when I do randomly forget to lucid dream or don't have assize up cure 1 has come to save the day.
Normally this isn't an issue outside of EX content. But in Current EX connect I've run out of MP as a whm with a longer fight when I forget to manage my mp correctly.

You need to be proactively be using lilys and thin air as well. They are more potent than assize at MP regen

You really shouldn’t be running out of MP on WHM even if you forget lucid now and then

[Maltothoris]

There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.

Not so much at the later levels because this where the scaling gets all messed up . At lvl 90 in bis cure 1 is about 11k cause the true potency of cure 1 is 650. Cure 2 potency is 1040 and that it about at 20k.

[ty_taurus]

That's not a solution, as everything comes with a price. Reduce cast time means reduced potency, means more complaints and nothing changes.

Want a real solution to this and many other problems regarding playstyles? Educate your fellow gamers, be polite and friendly. If they spaz or act poorly that's on them. Don't just start complaining about stuff and say delete this delete that. It's a social focus MMO, and back in SB days people used to actually teach people things and do things effectively. Now everybody uses Band-Aid solutions and spreads misinformation then complains when the average player underperforms. It's on all of us to make it better, not for us to riot on the forums about something so bloody trivial

I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain this, but when the game’s designers go to make changes, they aren’t subject to some preset selection of requirements like they’re the players spending points on some sort of customization system.

If they need to change the cast time of an action, they can just do it. The system isn’t going to give them an error and say “you’ve invested too many points into this action.” So the idea that adjusting the cast time of an action objectively and inherently results in the lowering of its potency is actually absurd.

[Sebazy]

There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.

Again, this is why it makes more sense to upgrade it into Esuna, not Cure 2 (MP costs as well)

Also as a former Cure 1 enjoyer who kept it on key 1 and occasionally used it for that exact reason, it honestly stopped being valid a good time back. Between Benison charges, tetra, Lilies etcetc, we have many options that are faster still.

[Kewitt]

You need to be proactively be using lilys and thin air as well. They are more potent than assize at MP regen

You really shouldn’t be running out of MP on WHM even if you forget lucid now and then

Normally with every trash pull it's regen medica 2 and spam holy till everything is dead.
Normally on a bosses I regen and medica 2 and dia spam glare and to heal lily

On EX content is the only time I every use use cure or cure 2 and have risk of running out of mp while keeping my dps numbers up.

[Supersnow845]

Normally with every trash pull it's regen medica 2 and spam holy till everything is dead.
Normally on a bosses I regen and medica 2 and dia spam glare and to heal lily

On EX content is the only time I every use use cure or cure 2 and have risk of running out of mp while keeping my dps numbers up.

Again you should be using lilys they are WHM’s biggest source of MP, I have no idea why you are using cure 1 and 2 on an ex boss, use your lilys and your oGCD’s like assize, asylum and tetra, alongside the other healer that is ent of healing

Medica 2 is also close to useless on single target