Cure and it's Equivalents need to be axed

[CaptainLagbeard]

Your main healing spell should never be Cure 2 or Benefic 2, it's actually Regen/Aspected Benefic. With a side of OGCDs.

Saying Cure/Benefic should be removed is kind of be like saying that Physick should be removed from SCH because Adloquium exists,

[Aravell]

While Cure/Cure II and Benefic/Benefic II have no good reason to be separate buttons, I think Physick does have its niche uses in certain cases where Adlo isn't strictly the better options. I remember Physick saving us a wipe quite a few times when progging ultimate fights and such. I think Physick has its place, although alternatively, it could be rolled into Esuna and brought back as Leeches.

[Gordita]

There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.

[ty_taurus]

There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.

So reduce the cast time by 0.5 seconds...

[Gordita]

So reduce the cast time by 0.5 seconds...

That's not a solution, as everything comes with a price. Reduce cast time means reduced potency, means more complaints and nothing changes.

Want a real solution to this and many other problems regarding playstyles? Educate your fellow gamers, be polite and friendly. If they spaz or act poorly that's on them. Don't just start complaining about stuff and say delete this delete that. It's a social focus MMO, and back in SB days people used to actually teach people things and do things effectively. Now everybody uses Band-Aid solutions and spreads misinformation then complains when the average player underperforms. It's on all of us to make it better, not for us to riot on the forums about something so bloody trivial

[Supersnow845]

That's not a solution, as everything comes with a price. Reduce cast time means reduced potency, means more complaints and nothing changes.

Want a real solution to this and many other problems regarding playstyles? Educate your fellow gamers, be polite and friendly. If they spaz or act poorly that's on them. Don't just start complaining about stuff and say delete this delete that. It's a social focus MMO, and back in SB days people used to actually teach people things and do things effectively. Now everybody uses Band-Aid solutions and spreads misinformation then complains when the average player underperforms. It's on all of us to make it better, not for us to riot on the forums about something so bloody trivial

We are in a situation where the playerbase and square enix are n a race to the bottom to see how bad people can play while square desperately tries to baby proof every job, what are we really supposed to do when people don’t want to learn and square designs jobs around these people

Hell there is a person on this exact forum who when the discussion centres around “cure 1 is near useless use cure 2 if you desperately need to use single target GCD healing” decided to reply with “I shouldn’t have to get any better at my job to play the game”

Legit what are we supposed to do against people who think like this considering they seem to be the only people square listens to

[Maltothoris]

There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.

Not so much at the later levels because this where the scaling gets all messed up . At lvl 90 in bis cure 1 is about 11k cause the true potency of cure 1 is 650. Cure 2 potency is 1040 and that it about at 20k.

[Sebazy]

There's actually a good reason to have these buttons separated, for white mage the cast speed of cure1 is faster. Sometimes you need a faster heal as opposed to a strong one. We can easily say "skill issue" but that isn't a solution nor does it change the reality of the point that I made.

Again, this is why it makes more sense to upgrade it into Esuna, not Cure 2 (MP costs as well)

Also as a former Cure 1 enjoyer who kept it on key 1 and occasionally used it for that exact reason, it honestly stopped being valid a good time back. Between Benison charges, tetra, Lilies etcetc, we have many options that are faster still.

[ty_taurus]

I think he means that Physick is basically useless at higher levels since you have a myriad of tools to handle the job of "make HP bar go up" more effectively and efficiently.
The problem is when you're at a level where you don't have those tools yet.

Damn, you didn’t need to do Lustrate dirty like that.

[Supersnow845]

I more mean outside of incredibly niche cases if you are doing that dumb “use physick because the shield didn’t get fully absorbed” then you didn’t need to cast a heal in that GCD

Physick is 400 potency, adlo is 300 pure potency and a shield, if you cast adlo on a partially cracked shield it will refill the shield, so basically as long as the shield has lost 100 potency then adlo is always better, and if your previous shield is cracking that slowly you don’t know if you have lost 100 potency off the shield then you really don’t need to be casting a second GCD heal

Either the enemies are hurting you hard enough the shield is getting absorbed fast enough that adlo is always better, otherwise every second GCD you could put towards damage