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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    The 2 minute meta is just a way to design the jobs so they sync better in groups, really. It sounds like they wanted to try minimizing the job selection bias and make teamwork easier due to the strained relationships that can form in the tougher content they end up making. Like if all there is a job that doesn't align to the other ones properly in a 10 minute fight and they are using multipliers instead of summation, it is going to mean that in the hardest content that job is going to get booted. Even if the developers design every job to be able to clear the content, the community still will prioritize which jobs are going to clear the content the best, and if there is one thing the community is good at, it's finding out which jobs get the best results.

    Heck, they got job bias just from how difficult it is to learn a job, run a job under pressure, and how much damage the job does. Astro is on the bench because it takes a mountain of effort to do the same job as a whm, and anyone can tell you that Sage is a lot easier to learn than scholar.

    And this late the most common tanks I'm seeing are warrior and paladin. Gunbreaker and DRK can work but they aren't as easy to run as the former two and both have some issues: The first is drift in the rotation and the second is being a faceroll on the keyboard during burst phase that doesn't have a good ordering to it.
    Drk only starts to do the same dps as Warrior at a 95% Adps parse, which is frankly kind of a stupid thing to ask from a job that already does everything else worse. It's completely outside of your control, and assumes you have the perfect team comp in the first place. So yeah, you're not seeing it as often anymore. For Drk to be as good as a Warrior (Not better) you need soooooo much to go right, and it just doesn't really happen. You can just play War, which is MUCH easier to optimise in the first place, and doesn't rely nearly as much on those party buffs. If you can play Drk competently, well, you can play Warrior with identical proficiency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Drk only starts to do the same dps as Warrior at a 95% Adps parse, which is frankly kind of a stupid thing to ask from a job that already does everything else worse.
    So yeah, you're not seeing it as often anymore. For Drk to be as good as a Warrior (Not better) you need soooooo much to go right, and it just doesn't really happen.
    So sorry the favourite child has to be the best at everything

    Not even BLM gets half as favourable treatment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    So sorry the favourite child has to be the best at everything

    Not even BLM gets half as favourable treatment
    Nothing new, War continues to cannibalise traits and identities from the other tanks, and i have no doubt that we'll have another situation where War players (Streamer and his followers) will demand buffs if and when they give Dark knight yet another identity in Dawntrail or beyond, followed by the mandatory ''Dark needs a rework because it has no identity'' like before.
    The goalpost for Drk is that it can clear. The goalpost for War is that it needs to do everything better than Drk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Nothing new, War continues to cannibalise traits and identities from the other tanks, and i have no doubt that we'll have another situation where War players (Streamer and his followers) will demand buffs if and when they give Dark knight yet another identity in Dawntrail or beyond, followed by the mandatory ''Dark needs a rework because it has no identity'' like before.
    The eternal cycle

    Step 1) give DRK a new identity
    Step 2) WAR complains till WAR gets the best traits of DRK’s new identity with zero downsides
    Step 3) DRK plays like a worse WAR
    Step 4) people complain DRK has no identity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The eternal cycle

    Step 1) give DRK a new identity
    Step 2) WAR complains till WAR gets the best traits of DRK’s new identity with zero downsides
    Step 3) DRK plays like a worse WAR
    Step 4) people complain DRK has no identity
    Meanwhile War enables no healer comps in the hardest content in the game lol
    But god forbid another tank does 2 (two) percent more damage in 6.3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Nothing new, War continues to cannibalise traits and identities from the other tanks, and i have no doubt that we'll have another situation where War players (Streamer and his followers) will demand buffs if and when they give Dark knight yet another identity in Dawntrail or beyond, followed by the mandatory ''Dark needs a rework because it has no identity'' like before.
    The goalpost for Drk is that it can clear. The goalpost for War is that it needs to do everything better than Drk.
    That reminds on the so called "glory days" that some people like to call them here, people was constantly telling me, if you don't wanna play WAR at least switch to PLD, DRK sucks and we don't want it in our team comps, so I either had te resign playing that content or switch to class I didn't like/want to play.

    fun days, were those.
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