All The Doom Threads Are Strange To Me

[Striker44]

I dunno about doom and all that but after base Endwalker all the patches had almost no content for non hardcore players and that's simple facts.

I stopped reading right here for a moment because the "simple facts" are the complete opposite. I am most definitely a non-hardcore player. I still have content from the various patches that I've barely touched or haven't done at all (but am still looking forward to doing). The closest thing to a "fact" might be the dev team this time around didn't create content you desire, or that the content in and of itself isn't as "long-lasting" as something like an exploratory zone, but the "simple fact" is that there is a lot of content for non-hardcore players.

Oh, for the record, I've been playing on-and-off since 2015 and playing this game as my main MMO since 2021, and I haven't come close to touching all of the content I want to do (let alone everything that exists, as there are a variety of things I just don't personally have interest in).

And have you considered that perhaps they intentionally did NOT put in an M+ system because that's not the kind of game FFXIV wants to be, or the crowd it wants to attract? And again - you might be disappointed with things like Manderville. Other people (such as myself) love that kind of content and very much enjoy the Manderville storylines.

[strawberrycake]

If that quote is as true as you claim why do you play the game? Why does that person play the game. I have been playing since 1.0 and like the op find things to do and enjoy in ffxiv every single day. If you are unhappy do something you enjoy. Stop spending your entire existence incessantly complaining about things you cannot change in life. You may actually find something you enjoy.

We're you the same person who literally sat here and said the Idea of this game changing actually scared you, I could have sworn that was the case?

[Supersnow845]

Remember kids it’s a rule in 14 discussion

If you’ve been playing since 2013 and still have more content to do then you are totally valid and there is nothing wrong with the game

If youve been playing since 2022 and you’ve already done all the content you are obviously a toxic tryhard and should go die in a hole or something

[Jojoya]

Remember kids it’s a rule in 14 discussion

If you’ve been playing since 2013 and still have more content to do then you are totally valid and there is nothing wrong with the game

If youve been playing since 2022 and you’ve already done all the content you are obviously a toxic tryhard and should go die in a hole or something

I wouldn't dismiss someone as a toxic tryhard unless they're acting like a toxic tryhard (those types of player unfortunately do exist). I also wouldn't say anyone should go die in a hole unless they're someone going on real life violent criminal sprees (or recklessly inciting them) with no concern for others.

But if you're been playing since 2022 and you've already done everything you want to do, then you should go play other games until new content is released that you want to do. That shouldn't be hard to figure out. Developers are never going to be able to keep pace with those players who consume content the fastest.

[Grizzlpaw]

While Jobs could be improved. I have few complaints about the amount of content in 14. I have a massive list of goals that I'm aiming for and I've only scratched the surface. By the time I run though the list and run out of things to do, years will have passed and I'll leave content knowing I got plenty out of this game. Just as I did when I finally achieved all of my goals in Gw2. Those were years well spent.

[Aravell]

I have to ask this question: What constitutes a doom post here?

Is it any criticism post? Is it if the OP is regarded as a known doomposter? Is it any post you don't personally like?

I've been seeing people go into criticism threads lately and just claim it's doom posting. What is the criteria for a thread to be considered dooming?

[Heroman3003]

I have to ask this question: What constitutes a doom post here?

Is it any criticism post? Is it if the OP is regarded as a known doomposter? Is it any post you don't personally like?

I've been seeing people go into criticism threads lately and just claim it's doom posting. What is the criteria for a thread to be considered dooming?

"Game is dying" with evidence usually being a screenshot of empty PF on a low populated server in middle of the night, OP's 'experienced opinion' and some poll from third party website that doesn't actually tell anything about subscription or overall player numbers. And any 'critique' thread, where there is less critique and more "this current thing sucks and THATS why game is dying" or "this upcoming things sucks and THATS why the game will die for sure when it comes". There can be valid critique, but its often buried behind the intents of just trying to validate one's dislike of things by claiming that said things are somehow actively currently killing the game, when in fact, game has been doing perfectly well, and still is and for the time being that remains unchanged, hence why the 'critique' threads commonly get called out on being Doomposting.

[Aravell]

"Game is dying" with evidence usually being a screenshot of empty PF on a low populated server in middle of the night, OP's 'experienced opinion' and some poll from third party website that doesn't actually tell anything about subscription or overall player numbers. And any 'critique' thread, where there is less critique and more "this current thing sucks and THATS why game is dying" or "this upcoming things sucks and THATS why the game will die for sure when it comes". There can be valid critique, but its often buried behind the intents of just trying to validate one's dislike of things by claiming that said things are somehow actively currently killing the game, when in fact, game has been doing perfectly well, and still is and for the time being that remains unchanged, hence why the 'critique' threads commonly get called out on being Doomposting.

I understand that the "game is dead/dying" posts are increasingly annoying. But what of the threads that don't mention "dead/dying game" but also have people coming in and claiming it's dooming? Having people enter a constructive critique thread and claim it's dooming is just as annoying as people claiming the game is dying in every positive thread, no?

[SamSmoot]

I played WoW for many years before FFXIV, and still pop in occasionally via PTR. I left there because:
1. If you don't raid, there's no gear progression beyond dungeon and crafted gear (both crap.)
2. The new Dragonflight talent system looked like more work than fun. I prefer the previous system with it's far fewer choices.
3. They broke my target closest macro by disabling /cleartarget in macros when used with other commands, like /cleartarget, then /targetenemy
4. Toxic guild. Could have found another after I quit, but FFXIV pulled me away and I never resubbed for Dragonflight.

FFXIV is still doing fine in my opinion.

[Turtledeluxe]

"Game is dying" with evidence usually being a screenshot of empty PF on a low populated server in middle of the night, OP's 'experienced opinion' and some poll from third party website that doesn't actually tell anything about subscription or overall player numbers. And any 'critique' thread, where there is less critique and more "this current thing sucks and THATS why game is dying" or "this upcoming things sucks and THATS why the game will die for sure when it comes". There can be valid critique, but its often buried behind the intents of just trying to validate one's dislike of things by claiming that said things are somehow actively currently killing the game, when in fact, game has been doing perfectly well, and still is and for the time being that remains unchanged, hence why the 'critique' threads commonly get called out on being Doomposting.

You do not need to wait for obscure periods for PF to basically be a raiding hub and very little else.