All The Doom Threads Are Strange To Me

[Mostly_Raxus]

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i know, its almost like these ingrates think they pay for the game, and monthly at that LOL what fools, they haven't given money since before ARR launched so why should square be responsible providing meaningful contents thats carries in to every sub cycle..

and how dare consumers ask a triple A game company to keep the in game models up to date with simple rigging and texture pack updates.. its not like modders do it for free already with little effort..

thank goodness we have developers working so hard by taking entire patch cycles off paid to also get paid working on ff16 as well, otherwise the game would of crashed without their constant vigil...

*Cough Cough* excuse me, i seem to be choking on sarcasm..

[Erzaa]

i know, its almost like these ingrates think they pay for the game, and monthly at that LOL what fools, they haven't given money since before ARR launched so why should square be responsible providing meaningful contents thats carries in to every sub cycle..

and how dare consumers ask a triple A game company to keep the in game models up to date with simple rigging and texture pack updates.. its not like modders do it for free already with little effort..

thank goodness we have developers working so hard by taking entire patch cycles off paid to also get paid working on ff16 as well, otherwise the game would of crashed without their constant vigil...

*Cough Cough* excuse me, i seem to be choking on sarcasm..

You pay for the game, but aren't happy with what you're provided, you take your money elsewhere. I'm not being sarcastic or "just quit the game...", more like, if truly enough people aren't happy with the state of the game and took their money elsewhere, SE would notice and make changes.

I feel, most people who complain on the forums that the game is in a terrible state but refuse to unsub, are worried, because deep down, they know that most people really wouldn't follow. It wouldn't be a WoW Exodus and the game would be just fine without them, and most people, even with a few pet peeves here and there, are happy with the game.

[Mostly_Raxus]

You pay for the game, but aren't happy with what you're provided, you take your money elsewhere. I'm not being sarcastic or "just quit the game...", more like, if truly enough people aren't happy with the state of the game and took their money elsewhere, SE would notice and make changes.

I feel, most people who complain on the forums that the game is in a terrible state but refuse to unsub, are worried, because deep down, they know that most people really wouldn't follow. It wouldn't be a WoW Exodus and the game would be just fine without them, and most people, even with a few pet peeves here and there, are happy with the game.

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

[Erzaa]

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

Hahahaha. Funny you should mention that, considering the forums are mostly an echo chamber of negativity, game is dying, game is terrible, game is awful.... Oh, the irony.

And no, you can have discussions, that's what the forums are for afterall. But discussions only happen between a few people with differing opinions, in between tens of posts of blanket statements.

And yes, if the changes you so desperately want aren't being made after you've asked for them hundred or thousands of times, then you take a hard stance and take your money elsewhere. If enough people do it, those changes will be forced, but will enough people do it?

[Mostly_Raxus]

Hahahaha. Funny you should mention that, considering the forums are mostly an echo chamber of negativity, game is dying, game is terrible, game is awful.... Oh, the irony.

And no, you can have discussions, that's what the forums are for afterall. But discussions only happen between a few people with differing opinions, in between tens of posts of blanket statements.

And yes, if the changes you so desperately want aren't being made after you've asked for them hundred or thousands of times, then you take a hard stance and take your money elsewhere. If enough people do it, those changes will be forced, but will enough people do it?

or the game studio sees a lack of profit and decides its not worth the hassle for the main team, the game gets handed to a cheaper studio, put on the cloud and goes in to maintenance mode with 6+ months between every patch, and basically left to die wile it milks its whales for all it can get until it releases next product, all while the people working on the game start getting re directed to newer titles and their focus becomes less and less on the game untill the director starts focusing on other main line games instead.... just for instance...

the forums exist as a means for communication with the developers, im sorry but how often do you call a restaurant after your meal to complement them on a job well done? not to often i take it.
the game LITERALLY tells us to come here with our problems and complaints, the forums are not for you pat the devs on the back for successfully receiving your payment..
this is the MEDIUM at witch the PLAYER-BASE is meant to CONTACT the DEV team.
maybe think about that before you critize people for doing that very thing.

plenty of people do take their money elsewhere, you mentioned the wow exodus, kinda funny considering that the servers seem almost dead since those days, guess there was a FFXIV exodus, but its ok you still have your alt and RP cafe.

[Erzaa]

or the game studio sees a lack of profit and decides its not worth the hassle for the main team, the game gets handed to a cheaper studio, put on the cloud and goes in to maintenance mode with 6+ months between every patch, and basically left to die wile it milks its whales for all it can get until it releases next product, all while the people working on the game start getting re directed to newer titles and their focus becomes less and less on the game untill the director starts focusing on other main line games instead.... just for instance...

the forums exist as a means for communication with the developers, im sorry but how often do you call a restaurant after your meal to complement them on a job well done? not to often i take it.
the game LITERALLY tells us to come here with our problems and complaints, the forums are not for you pat the devs on the back for successfully receiving your payment..
this is the MEDIUM at witch the PLAYER-BASE is meant to CONTACT the DEV team.
maybe think about that before you critize people for doing that very thing.

plenty of people do take their money elsewhere, you mentioned the wow exodus, kinda funny considering that the servers seem almost dead since those days, guess there was a FFXIV exodus, but its ok you still have your alt and RP cafe.

You're absolutely right. But, how many times do you need to repeat the same problems you have with the game, not having them changed, before you realise you're being ignored?

It could be you're being ignored for many reasons. Maybe you're complaints aren't valid, maybe more of the playerbase doesn't agree with you, maybe the developers just really don't care one way or another.

But how many times will you repeat yourself, before finally giving up and saying I've had enough, you can't have my money anymore?

And restaurant example, you call, you complain, they don't listen, do you keep going back and eating their food?

[Mostly_Raxus]

You're absolutely right. But, how many times do you need to repeat the same problems you have with the game, not having them changed, before you realise you're being ignored?

It could be you're being ignored for many reasons. Maybe you're complaints aren't valid, maybe more of the playerbase doesn't agree with you, maybe the developers just really don't care one way or another.

But how many times will you repeat yourself, before finally giving up and saying I've had enough, you can't have my money anymore?

And restaurant example, you call, you complain, they don't listen, do you keep going back and eating their food?

how many players are there? are each of them not just a justified to fight for this, are each of them not allowed to learn this for them selves? its not just one of us, some people are here saying it, but its not just one person, every patch a new player hits that point and comes here, and yet they are treated like they are the same person that has been saying it since ARR..

this game died once, we can all agree we dont want it to happen again, you just have to trust that the people willing to come criticize the game versus just leaving care enough about it to want to see it improved. even if they are not happy with current state, we can still want to hope and believe it can get better.

[sindriiisgaming]

well there goes any discourse, if we like the game enough that we want it to improve we should just quit everyone, no point actually fighting for change, no need for civil rights in our countries people, we can just leave instead..

you dont want a discussion, you want a echo chamber that constantly validates your purchase of the game, your fragile ego wont allow the game to improve because you will never admit there is a problem in fear of you admitting you made a poor choice.

If everybody who was mad at the game quit the mmo would be a barren wasteland. These ppl don't really understand why there words ruin the entire game for everyone. They play solo, log in once a month for there house. Don't do savages or ukts ir even exs. They just sit and chat in nn or something similar. Imo they've no right to tell us to quit when they barley even play it

[Erzaa]

If everybody who was mad at the game quit the mmo would be a barren wasteland. These ppl don't really understand why there words ruin the entire game for everyone. They play solo, log in once a month for there house. Don't do savages or ukts ir even exs. They just sit and chat in nn or something similar. Imo they've no right to tell us to quit when they barley even play it

Excuse you? I don't do savage or extremes or ultimates or any of that, because I've no interest in it. And I login every single day, I play solo, I play duo, I play trio, I join roulettes. As long as it's not high end raiding content, I've done it. Don't believe me? Go check my Lodestone profile. Don't speak as if you know me. I've been on almost every single day on the game for the last 4,5 years mister.

[Merrigan]

If everybody who was mad at the game quit the mmo would be a barren wasteland. These ppl don't really understand why there words ruin the entire game for everyone. They play solo, log in once a month for there house. Don't do savages or ukts ir even exs. They just sit and chat in nn or something similar. Imo they've no right to tell us to quit when they barley even play it

I play 4-5 days a week, done all Ex and savages even if that's not my main occupation at the moment. Am I autorized to speak ?

Thank you, you're too kind.

the forums exist as a means for communication with the developers, im sorry but how often do you call a restaurant after your meal to complement them on a job well done? not to often i take it.
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A lot. It's very rare for me to leave a negative review online, the only exception being hygiene, or really rude behaviour. Actually, I might have done it... once, in all my life. And the restaurant was a disaster. On the other hand, I often tell when it was really good, or the service was on point, or when the whole experience was pleasant.

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