Yoshia Do Not Work On Other Main Titile Games Please.

[strawberrycake]

They were working on FF16 since Heavensward, so you would have to argue that we have never had much content for FF14. Is that what you are arguing?

You even agree with me.

We saw a few cuts: the allied beast tribe and DSR, and a delay before one of the major patches and before Endwalker release. This was obviously all related to Covid-19 not FF16.

Can you explain how we began to see the stress of FF16 in Shadowbringers? We had all the stages of Ishgard Restoration, Ocean Fishing, Bozja, CLL, Zadnor, Dalriada, Delubrum Reginae, Delubrum Reginae Savage, all 12 savage floors, the usual 7 extremes, an extra extreme, the usual 3 alliance raids, the usual beast tribes, the usual leveling dungeons and trials as part of the expansion release and The Epic of Alexander (Ultimate).

Wasn't that just in a live letter seat and it was relating to the Endwalker release date?

The only people I know are working on both are Soken and Koji. Soken works on the music for both while Koji still does vocals and lends dragon voice advice for FF14.

Yoshi-P isn't even directing FF16; he is just the producer ie. just handling the spreadsheet, finances and employment. The day-to-day creative stuff is handled by another person.

Promised Ultimates we didn't get, He felt bad for it. Ishgard Restoration Missing out Battle Jobs being able to interact. No Ocean Fishinh Updates, And he did cry at the Endwalker Announcement about feeling like he wasn't doing his job well enough, but he also cried several times during the event for that. It's not about him Directing 16 anymore. Also with Covid, The Schedule was already kinda overstuffed prior and given their tight scheduling, a lot of what they promised wouldn't have FIT

I do not want CBU3 to work on other Main Title games in the fiture as I just feel it's assinine to have CBU1 which is the Single player Division not work on Single player Titles. CBU3 is the MMO division and should work only on MMOs. MMOs, Online games however you wanna call it require consistent attention and focus to be maintained.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Again you're conflating me being assertive in a forum like this with yelling. No. I'm stating a point a point based within His own shortcomings he felt he had, that he cried for. I am a consumer paying money, if you spend money you have a right to say what you feel is fair for the product you paid for. Para-social implies I care what he does when it is not affecting my product which I pay for. I look at SE has an entity and Yoshida As a worker in Said Entity and XIV as an end user product that could and should be better.

There is no emotion. This is me saying Working on another product is a bad idea because we have Promised Aspects in ShB, that failed, and EW, being lackluster af, and the work on 16 being a big aspect of that.

I do not care if you like the language I'm using, I simply want the product to be better. Anything you're feeling, or thinking is irrelavent to that, to this post, and this this products being made better. If you wanna talk about feelings you can try another post or someone else in the XIV community.

Now back to my main point.

Working. On.Two. Games. Is. Not. CBU3s. Strong. Suit.

Don't Do it again.

Like I said, the fact that you're telling this guy to "stop working on other projects" screams somebody who doesnt know shit. Heck I dont know shit either but I do know that in the gaming industry developers rarely tie themselves to one project the entire time and they're always working on something else. What I'm arguing that this was never the problem. If anything the actual problem is that Yoshida's directing skills have been stagnating as the game goes on for so long. I want him to do better and its clear that despite the passion that he shows and speaks off in many of the LLs and interviews that the man isnt nor ever was perfect. This was the same way back in 2.0 where the had so many bumps in the roads and lo and behold we still have em today.

What I hold responsible is both him and the team for seriously slacking in various areas and I dont care nor believe its because they're juggling multiple projects. Its what the industry does and if you're just finding out about it then that just shows how ignorant you were on the genre the entire time.

Bottom line, this is a stupid topic to bring up and Im sick and tired of people trying to find easy excuses like saying "Oh its because they were working on x that this game is bad". Seriously listen to your own post here.

What Yoshida and whoever is currently in CBU3 needs to do is to get it together and start listening to feedback and address concerns a lot better rather than being so damn stubborn with a lot of their design choices.

[strawberrycake]

Like I said, the fact that you're telling this guy to "stop working on other projects" screams somebody who doesnt know shit. Heck I dont know shit either but I do know that in the gaming industry developers rarely tie themselves to one project the entire time and they're always working on something else. What I'm arguing that this was never the problem. If anything the actual problem is that Yoshida's directing skills have been stagnating as the game goes on for so long. I want him to do better and its clear that despite the passion that he shows and speaks off in many of the LLs and interviews that the man isnt nor ever was perfect. This was the same way back in 2.0 where the had so many bumps in the roads and lo and behold we still have em today.

What I hold responsible is both him and the team for seriously slacking in various areas and I dont care nor believe its because they're juggling multiple projects. Its what the industry does and if you're just finding out about it then that just shows how ignorant you were on the genre the entire time.

Bottom line, this is a stupid topic to bring up and Im sick and tired of people trying to find easy excuses like saying "Oh its because they were working on x that this game is bad". Seriously listen to your own post here.

What Yoshida and whoever is currently in CBU3 needs to do is to get it together and start listening to feedback and address concerns a lot better rather than being so damn stubborn with a lot of their design choices.

He asked for Feed back and I'm giving it. Don't like it leave. it's that simple.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I'm still not convinced that FFXVI had as much of an effect on FFXIV as people argue it did. Is EW objectively the worst FFXIV expansion? If you think yes, then what's your evidence? Time between patches? Story quality? amount of casual/midcore/hardcore content? job design? Do any of those prove if one expansion is better than the other? And if it's not the worst, then I'm not sure how you can say that FFXVI was a terrible thing that took away from FFXIV when other expansions were worse without a side game.

And this is from someone that didn't like FFXVI at all.

It never did. Its people like strawberry so desperate in trying to find some fathomable excuse to why the current game isnt as great. Can we seriously stop kidding ourselves and finally admit that the developer's are just not doing a good job in general? Heck this was even the case with FFXVI; the game that sooooo many people try to believe they put all of their time and effort turned out to still be mediocre.

[Atelier-Bagur]

He asked for Feed back and I'm giving it. Don't like it leave. it's that simple.

Yeah well your feedback while correct is still terrible. Stop giving the devs excuses is all I ask. Hold them accountable for them doing a poor job rather than trying to say they only ever did so because of FFXVI.

[strawberrycake]

I think another Point to make as well is simply this. Theres a Multitude of different things that have occurred Between Covid, bad Scheduling, Making a video game Along side an MMO. and whatever else was going on internally at the company at the time.

As a consumer, i do not care. I just want my product to be better. If you're late for work your boss does not care. If you late for picking up your kid, the day care does not care. What little empathy I have is solely going toward what happened during covid, but this is also a billion Dollar Entity, And the other Billion Dollar Companies did a better job Mobilizing their work forces all over the world.

So one could Say this was a cocktail of Unfortunate events.

I am here to tell you how much I don't care. I do Not Care for the Semantics, The Good Faith Arguments. The people Who say how much they don't care but argue on every post being critical of XIV. I do not care.

XIV Deserves Full Time Focus and Full Time Devs and A Full. Time. Director.

Working. On.Two. Games. Is. Not. CBU3s. Strong. Suit.

Don't Do it again.

That is my Feed back. The Feed Back Yoshida is Asking For.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Promised Ultimates we didn't get, He felt bad for it. Ishgard Restoration Missing out Battle Jobs being able to interact. No Ocean Fishinh Updates, And he did cry at the Endwalker Announcement about feeling like he wasn't doing his job well enough, but he also cried several times during the event for that. It's not about him Directing 16 anymore. Also with Covid, The Schedule was already kinda overstuffed prior and given their tight scheduling, a lot of what they promised wouldn't have FIT

I do not want CBU3 to work on other Main Title games in the fiture as I just feel it's assinine to have CBU1 which is the Single player Division not work on Single player Titles. CBU3 is the MMO division and should work only on MMOs. MMOs, Online games however you wanna call it require consistent attention and focus to be maintained.

yeah I'm sure that turned out great with WoW when much of the original team still released Cataclysm, Mists of Pandaria and Warlords of Draenor- oh wait whats that? Thats when that MMO started to fail?? SAY IT AINT SO.

No amount of them staying in the game guarantee's consistent quality. Stop kidding yourself here. The answer is plain and simple. People can suck no matter what and trying to say otherwise is just ignorant

[Atelier-Bagur]

I think another Point to make as well is simply this. Theres a Multitude of different things that have occurred Between Covid, bad Scheduling, Making a video game Along side an MMO. and whatever else was going on internally at the company at the time.

As a consumer, i do not care. I just want my product to be better. If you're late for work your boss does not care. If you late for picking up your kid, the day care does not care. What little empathy I have is solely going toward what happened during covid, but this is also a billion Dollar Entity, And the other Billion Dollar Companies did a better job Mobilizing their work forces all over the world.

So one could Say this was a cocktail of Unfortunate events.

I am here to tell you how much I don't care. I do Not Care for the Semantics, The Good Faith Arguments. The people Who say how much they don't care but argue on every post being critical of XIV. I do not care.

XIV Deserves Full Time Focus and Full Time Devs and A Full. Time. Director.

Working. On.Two. Games. Is. Not. CBU3s. Strong. Suit.

Don't Do it again.

That is my Feed back. The Feed Back Yoshida is Asking For.

IT. NEVER. WAS. THEM. WORKING. ON TWO. GAMES.

[strawberrycake]

yeah I'm sure that turned out great with WoW when much of the original team still released Cataclysm, Mists of Pandaria and Warlords of Draenor- oh wait whats that? Thats when that MMO started to fail?? SAY IT AINT SO.

No amount of them staying in the game guarantee's consistent quality. Stop kidding yourself here. The answer is plain and simple. People can suck no matter what and trying to say otherwise is just ignorant

Question, and this is serious question. Would you like to discuss this over discord? Like ina call?

[Jeeqbit]

Promised Ultimates we didn't get, He felt bad for it.

1 ultimate. He had to choose who was the priority as well: the majority of players who do the MSQ, or the minority who do ultimates. Just like only a minority are gonna get through all the beast tribes and do the allied beast tribe quest.

Ishgard Restoration Missing out Battle Jobs being able to interact.

It was never intended to, though. It was advertised in Stormblood as being endgame content for Disciples of the Hand and Land. I found it real fun though because building houses with hundreds of other players in one area is what an MMORPG is all about.

No Ocean Fishinh Updates

We got Ocean Fishing itself in that expansion though, as I remember it. It is more that we got less updates to it in Endwalker, although I can understand that with it being older content now, they tend to push old content types to getting 1 update per expansion if any.

Also with Covid, The Schedule was already kinda overstuffed prior and given their tight scheduling, a lot of what they promised wouldn't have FIT

I don't see how it was overstuffed. It was the normal stuff. It's just that there were literal delays on the companies they outsource to.

Imagine you ask "Image Designers Company" to make you some graphics by 02/03 date. On that date, you find out they need to extend the deadline because "they are all not at work due to lockdown and have a massive backlog due to working from home". That was the sort of issue they ran into. If you watch the credits, you will see they outsource to lots of companies for things like this and rely on them a lot.

Let's not forget that in the patch that was delayed, the lead music designer was battling a life-threatening condition and still managed it.