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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    HW didn’t have enough content. Nobody denies that, 3.1 is still the worst non legacy patch in the game despite the EW patches giving it a run for its money, gordias was hot garbage, diadem 1.0 and 2.0 were messy at best (280ilvl RNG weapons) downright annoying at worst (even for me who is probably field contents biggest fanboy)
    I don't know, back in Heavensward it felt like most people didn't have their jobs all maxed at 90 like they do now when I would analyze them. So there was something to do back then which was to level your other jobs through FATE farms or roulettes until POTD came out.

    The relics were something to do as well, because they were more than just tomestones, with steps such as trials and light farming that were an actual social experience.

    There were also more dungeons released, POTD was a new concept, we had the squadrons release, and all the standard content such as MSQ, trials, extremes, normal and savage raids. And we had an interesting change to the final alliance raid after it had been out a while.

    I'd admit the patch lull before Stormblood was really empty though. I felt like I spent up to 9 months just reclearing savage and joining first-time clear parties for alex and coils, because the 1,200 poetics was great for the relics and so many people needed them clearing. I was also just too nice, constantly helping them out when I didn't need to.

    But now you don't see as many parties to clear coils because it's easier to solo and you don't see them for alex because they added the normal raids roulette. Coils were also more fun in Heavensward because there was still a bit of danger remaining unlike now.

    We also got Wondrous Tails then and although you just solo them now, back then it was a social experience and you actually needed to recruit in party finder to take out the ARR trials.

    but we do know is that the vast majority of the streamers agree with us and that speaks a lot considering their cumulative knowledge and pull in the community
    To be fair, a lot of streamers and content creators are veteran players and there is certainly a disparity between what veteran players think and what newer players think who still have a backlog of content to get through.

    That isn't to say that veteran players' concerns don't have merit, but they do have to take into account how many players don't get paid to play the game all day and rush through all the content on day 1. I feel that many of them have taken this into account, particularly MrHappy, but there are going to be some that don't with how many content creators we have now.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 09-06-2023 at 12:27 AM.
    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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