Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Axxion]

Yea, I'm open to be proven wrong, but when you have multiple individuals using multiple accounts to bypass the comment limit and every one of those comments is just an insult against someone, I'm not likely to take your complaints seriously. There are some that have very good arguments, but threads like these quickly get taken over by the former types of posters especially when there is little moderation.

not to mention the tags doesnt help either ( and besides the ones that are putting these tags you do know that we can see who placed them correct, even the ones that never posted in the threads)

[Sebazy]

Zepla gained a ton of respect from me over the last few media tours.

Granted, I'm not really sure I'd call Endwalker bad, it's just that the recipe is beyond stale in my eyes at this point.

[Lalisajr]

it's certainly worse than SHB but there are still things to do but she and some other people just don't like doing it.

[Minarisweet]

Except you don't actually care about opinions. You are just trying to stir the pot around here.

I hate this mentality a lot of xiv players seem to have that if you say anything negative about the game you're either trolling or just trying to get attention it genuinely upsets me.

[Vahlnir]

I hate this mentality a lot of xiv players seem to have that if you say anything negative about the game you're either trolling or just trying to get attention it genuinely upsets me.

Guessing you aren't aware of what the OP has been doing. Try not to judge unless you know the details, yeah? You also must not be aware that I agree with the point, which I have stated multiple times. The OP themselves just isn't here to spark actual conversation. They set the forums ablaze, and watch it burn.

[VeolE]

I have been playing since launch and continue to play it as often as I always have. I still love the game. The game does not suck. The game is very good. You are welcome to your misguided opinion. Be prepared for people like Zepla and other FFIXV "quitters" to come out of the woodwork when Dawntrail drops to suck every last dollar out of their viewers. Suddently FFXIV will be the best game in human history.

Just going to leave this here.

[Supersnow845]

Guessing you aren't aware of what the OP has been doing. Try not to judge unless you know the details, yeah? You also must not be aware that I agree with the point, which I have stated multiple times. The OP themselves just isn't here to spark actual conversation. They set the forums ablaze, and watch it burn.

Though in this case who cares if the original poster is a memer, the content of the video is what matters and it’s sparked discussion on the forums, I honestly can’t even remember who posted the original post or what person they accuse said person of being an alt of (probably titanmen) because at this point I just engage with the discussion in the last 2-3 pages

[Vahlnir]

Though in this case who cares if the original poster is a memer, the content of the video is what matters and it’s sparked discussion on the forums, I honestly can’t even remember who posted the original post or what person they accuse said person of being an alt of (probably titanmen) because at this point I just engage with the discussion in the last 2-3 pages

Right. However, just because it turned into an actual debate, doesn't mean that they weren't trying to troll to begin with, which they were. That's all I have to say on it though. I don't want to derail the thread. It definitely took on a life all its own. It just hadn't happened yet when I made the post in question. Strangely enough, I think even the OP got in on the action and broke character at one point.

[Bonoki]

Though in this case who cares if the original poster is a memer, the content of the video is what matters and it’s sparked discussion on the forums, I honestly can’t even remember who posted the original post or what person they accuse said person of being an alt of (probably titanmen) because at this point I just engage with the discussion in the last 2-3 pages

It starts discussion every time because that what stirring the pot does. The difference is that the Eorzea hates the game force, (for lack of a better term), agrees with the memer more often than they are against him which enables him to go harder at what he does. So, it's a lot easier for that group of people to walk around saying things that sound good like "Who cares" and "Lives in your head rent free" and other gaslight buzzword words that really only allows for discussion among themselves and not for any opposing opinions. People hate seeing the comments "Go take a break and play another game" and I get that, but the opposite is also hit with the same nonstop shill and bootlicker statements anytime they want to fight in defense of the game. These forums are so pro criticism that you cannot argue against the criticism. You either agree with the criticism or you get dog piled on. I wish more people would call out the trolls and encourage civil discussion instead of having this whole, you are either with us or against us mentality on every single topic. I'm not afraid to come on these forums and say I dislike something with the game. I am afraid to come on these forums and say that I actually like something in the game though. That said, this thread actually is a much needed debate that does need to be discussed and addressed regardless of who posted it. Zepla makes great points and I agree with her takes.

[Vahlnir]

It starts discussion every time because that what stirring the pot does. The difference is that the Eorzea hates the game force, (for lack of a better term), agrees with the memer more often than they are against him which enables him to go harder at what he does. So, it's a lot easier for that group of people to walk around saying things that sound good like "Who cares" and "Lives in your head rent free" and other gaslight buzzword words that really only allows for discussion among themselves and not for any opposing opinions. People hate seeing the comments "Go take a break and play another game" and I get that, but the opposite is also hit with the same nonstop shill and bootlicker statements anytime they want to fight in defense of the game. These forums are so pro criticism that you cannot argue against the criticism. You either agree with the criticism or you get dog piled on. I wish more people would call out the trolls and encourage civil discussion instead of having this whole, you are either with us or against us mentality on every single topic. I'm not afraid to come on these forums and say I dislike something with the game. I am afraid to come on these forums and say that I actually like something in the game though. That said, this thread actually is a much needed debate that does need to be discussed and addressed regardless of who posted it. Zepla makes great points and I agree with her takes.

Yeah, pretty much. My attempts to take a stand against the trolling is pointless. I know that. It just gets frustrating is all. This discussion needed to be had though, that's for sure. I won't be thanking the OP for that, however. I still have my pride.