Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Bonoki]

Though in this case who cares if the original poster is a memer, the content of the video is what matters and it’s sparked discussion on the forums, I honestly can’t even remember who posted the original post or what person they accuse said person of being an alt of (probably titanmen) because at this point I just engage with the discussion in the last 2-3 pages

It starts discussion every time because that what stirring the pot does. The difference is that the Eorzea hates the game force, (for lack of a better term), agrees with the memer more often than they are against him which enables him to go harder at what he does. So, it's a lot easier for that group of people to walk around saying things that sound good like "Who cares" and "Lives in your head rent free" and other gaslight buzzword words that really only allows for discussion among themselves and not for any opposing opinions. People hate seeing the comments "Go take a break and play another game" and I get that, but the opposite is also hit with the same nonstop shill and bootlicker statements anytime they want to fight in defense of the game. These forums are so pro criticism that you cannot argue against the criticism. You either agree with the criticism or you get dog piled on. I wish more people would call out the trolls and encourage civil discussion instead of having this whole, you are either with us or against us mentality on every single topic. I'm not afraid to come on these forums and say I dislike something with the game. I am afraid to come on these forums and say that I actually like something in the game though. That said, this thread actually is a much needed debate that does need to be discussed and addressed regardless of who posted it. Zepla makes great points and I agree with her takes.

[Vahlnir]

It starts discussion every time because that what stirring the pot does. The difference is that the Eorzea hates the game force, (for lack of a better term), agrees with the memer more often than they are against him which enables him to go harder at what he does. So, it's a lot easier for that group of people to walk around saying things that sound good like "Who cares" and "Lives in your head rent free" and other gaslight buzzword words that really only allows for discussion among themselves and not for any opposing opinions. People hate seeing the comments "Go take a break and play another game" and I get that, but the opposite is also hit with the same nonstop shill and bootlicker statements anytime they want to fight in defense of the game. These forums are so pro criticism that you cannot argue against the criticism. You either agree with the criticism or you get dog piled on. I wish more people would call out the trolls and encourage civil discussion instead of having this whole, you are either with us or against us mentality on every single topic. I'm not afraid to come on these forums and say I dislike something with the game. I am afraid to come on these forums and say that I actually like something in the game though. That said, this thread actually is a much needed debate that does need to be discussed and addressed regardless of who posted it. Zepla makes great points and I agree with her takes.

Yeah, pretty much. My attempts to take a stand against the trolling is pointless. I know that. It just gets frustrating is all. This discussion needed to be had though, that's for sure. I won't be thanking the OP for that, however. I still have my pride.