Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Renathras]

I pretty much stop responding to them because they respond to 10 different people in there 20 paragraphs and takes 20 paragraphs to get to there point. It makes it a confusing mess when they respond to so many people and write so many paragraphs with so many arguments/points.

Nah, also a lie. Because I respond directly to you and you still don't pay attention to it.

I'd ask you again to prove that I said I was personally attacked and victimized by Zepla - something you say I said - but we both know I didn't say it AND we both know you won't admit you lied and made it up and were wrong.

And for a person accusing me of derailing threads a lot, you seem to enjoy talking about me in the third person when I'm right here, derailing the thread by your crusade against me. I've made several posts now about the current threat topic and issues with the game, and instead of acknowledging those OR letting it go, you keep making these passive aggressive derail posts about me in the third person, telling everyone how much you're ignoring me. You're ignoring me so hard, you have to keep discussing me to other people. It's like an interger overflow or something.

Maybe you should stick to the threat topic instead of trying to derail in incessant attacks against me? Or if you really want to go above and beyond, admit you lied and apologize for it and then...stop doing it and yeah, discuss the topic that everyone else is.

[Nebelheim]

Nah, also a lie. Because I respond directly to you and you still don't pay attention to it.

I'd ask you again to prove that I said I was personally attacked and victimized by Zepla - something you say I said - but we both know I didn't say it AND we both know you won't admit you lied and made it up and were wrong.

And for a person accusing me of derailing threads a lot, you seem to enjoy talking about me in the third person when I'm right here, derailing the thread by your crusade against me. I've made several posts now about the current threat topic and issues with the game, and instead of acknowledging those OR letting it go, you keep making these passive aggressive derail posts about me in the third person, telling everyone how much you're ignoring me. You're ignoring me so hard, you have to keep discussing me to other people. It's like an interger overflow or something.

Maybe you should stick to the threat topic instead of trying to derail in incessant attacks against me? Or if you really want to go above and beyond, admit you lied and apologize for it and then...stop doing it and yeah, discuss the topic that everyone else is.

You claimed in your very first post in this thread that you felt zepla was attacking you and the community that you conveniently cut out in your first response to me. You go in every thread and make it about you and always feel attacked and that your the victim then write multiple paragraphs about it. No one ever mentioned you until you came in and felt attacked by a streamer and got upset when people responded now your on a crusade against people calling you out.

[Renathras]

You claimed in your very first post in this thread that you felt zepla was attacking you and the community that you conveniently cut out in your first response to me. You go in every thread and make it about you and always feel attacked and that your the victim then write multiple paragraphs about it. No one ever mentioned you until you came in and felt attacked by a streamer and got upset when people responded now your on a crusade against people calling you out.

Ahem.

You mean this post?

Who OP is (another Gaius alt...) aside (let's be real, OP posted this to rile people up and stir the pot, not to make any serious or rational point, "her" history speaks for itself):

Zepla's snark at one point kind of indicates she's lost it a bit (so, of course, the usual suspects super agree with her on it...); when you attack people, you aren't criticizing the game, full stop. She very much seems to be a person in need of a break.

THAT said, EW is like the reverse SB. SB flopped on release, but made up for it in the post-patches. EW's release was fantastic but it dropped the ball in the post-patches. Where it needed to let us down gently from the post-climax high of the resolution of the 10 year story arc, it kind of just dropped us with little to do and longer patch cycles. It's the one expansion they REALLY shouldn't have decided to drop Exploration Content, and Island Sancutary, Criterion, and Orthos were thrown out to try and make up that void but have, for various reasons, failed to do so.

Part of this may be FF16 work, part of it is probably that they've also used a lot of resources on the graphics updeate (which isn't just 7.0 but is a work in progress that they're introducing bits of over time as well) and the revamp of the 1-70 game with Duty Support, AI, rebalancing and tuning all the earlier game stuff, and a lot of pruning and alternations to old quests, items, and systems to make the game more streamlined and "new user friendly" for people picking up the game. And all that stuff is fine and good...but it does expend resources that can't be used on the top end.

I do agree with Sharknado above:

[EDIT2: bold added to ask a question at the bottom of this post.]

[EDIT: Note when you load that post there's no edit tag - I haven't touched it or edited it. You lied, and that's why you should feel bad and apologize. I don't need to edit anything to make you feel bad, because you lied in the first place and, let's be honest, you won't feel bad no matter what, nor will you admit it. :ENDEDIT]

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That was my first post in this thread. Every word if it other than Sharknado's quote. Can you show me where the words "personally attacked" are in that post?

Indeed, I didn't even mention me being attacked in that post. Just a general "when you attack people, you aren't criticizing the game, full stop".

I didn't say who she was attacking, nor did I say she was attacking me. In later posts, I clarified this as her trying to preempt counter-arguments with a caricature. Also note I didn't say "the community" was attacked, either.

Note also there was no statement that I "came in and felt attacked by a streamer".

So I've debunked that I "felt zepla was attacking (me) and the community", yay! Are you ready to apologize for lying yet? OR, absent that, present a direct quote from me saying Zepla was attacking ME PERSONALLY? (Because there isn't one~! <3 )

"You go in every thread and make it about you"; show me where in the above thread I "make it about (me)"? I didn't mention myself in it at all other than when I said "I do agree with" Sharknado.

So I've debunked that I "go in every thread and make it about (me)", yay! Are you ready to apologize for lying yet?

It was MADE about me AFTER I posted by people like you. I had no hand in that.

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But what DID I say in that original post?

After my first line (discussing the OP's history) and second paragraph (noting Zepla's preemptive attack), what was the rest of - and, indeed, THE MAJORITY of that post?

Oh, RIGHT: ME AGREEING WITH HER, or something close enough to be adjacent.

I said it was a reverse of SB, where SB started weak and got stronger, EW started strong but flopped in the patches. I noted it dropped people after the climax of the story. I said it had longer patch cycles without enough content. That they REALLY shouldn't have dropped Exploration Zones the same time they made longer patch cycles. That IS/Criterion/Orthos didn't fill the void. That maybe part of this was due to FF16, graphics update, and new player experience stuff, which might be worthwhile but cannot be done to the exclusion of current content.

Indeed, if you WEREN'T TRYING TO PICK A FIGHT WITH ME, you'd probably AGREE with all the other stuff I said in that post.

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I didn't get upset when people responded to actual arguments. I got upset when people chose to attack me, derail the thread, ignore what I actually said in the post, LIE about what I said in the post, and continue to try derailing the thread talking about me well after I stopped even engaging with them.

YOU'RE DOING IT NOW.

You aren't calling me out, I'm calling YOU out, and you refuse to admit you've lied and you refuse to stop derailing the thread to attack me, even after I proved your attacks were faulty from the start. You just won't let it go, and I'd wager most other people here wanting to discuss the topic would love it if you'd stick to the topic instead of trying to attack me while _I'M_ talking about the topic.

Because from that VERY FIRST POST I was talking about the issues with the game and content, not "feeling attacked". Indeed, I've never once said in this entire thread I felt attacked by Zepla, despite you insisting that I have over and over.

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Indeed, I'm going to bold part of that OP here. Look at the bold parts. Tell me which part of that you disagree with.

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inb4 you avoid admitting you've been lying and attacking me for no reason with a "lol wall of text" or similar comment against my post length rather than that I completely debunked your claims and you want to refuse to admit you were wrong.