Why FFXIV is losing me :,(

[Reynhart]

100% agree bro... vertical progression sucks. FFXI is boss.

Actually, FFXI has the exact same problem. Level 75 content is dead. Sure, it had a better time managing multiple content at the same time, but it was because the level cap wasn't planned to change, and you just can't simply put higher and higher gear for years while staying on the same level. If you look at the really early days of FFXI, almost every 50- items are useless for lvl 75 content (I said "almost", I know about Leaping Boots, Emperor Hairpin, Peacock charm, etc...). That's why I hope that, one day, they'll just stop increasing the level cap, and starts wdening the choice on gear.

At least with ffxi their was a sense of accomplishment.

On a sidenote, I rarely felt any "accomplishment" from FFXI. In fact, most content is not really hard to beat, it's just that failing is frequently brutal, and drops rates were abysmally low. FFXI is not hard, it's punishing, and it does not really give you a sense of "accomplishment", just "lack of frustration"

[pawg]

A lot of stuff had caps. you needed good lvl 30 gear and 50 gear to help people get though COP missions. getting access to Sea/Sky was a major accomplishment.

Farming for currency for your Relic and farming the rare items drops with a committed group over a couple of years was a major accomplishment.

Watching someone obtain an item they had worked years to get was also a great feeling. It improved your groups ability to fight HNMS efficiently and it made you part of something.

You needed gear for several different situations and fights. It also added something different to the game because there were MANY different play styles................................

[Reynhart]

A lot of stuff had caps. you needed good lvl 30 gear and 50 gear to help people get though COP missions. getting access to Sea/Sky was a major accomplishment.

Indeed, getting access to something was good. But, in the whole playtime, it was minimal. And, in fact, not that hard. No content in lvl75 era FF XI could compare in sheer difficulty to Coil (AV and PW aside). Failing that content, however, was brutal...for example, if you lose the Mammet Fight, you have to go back to your home point (Hopefully, Tavnazia), trek all the way throughout Misareaux and Riverne Site to reach Monarch Linn and try again. It's not difficult, but damn is it boring...

Farming for currency for your Relic and farming the rare items drops with a committed group over a couple of years was a major accomplishment.

I don't think so. Winning your first Dynamis is good, clearing all of them up to Xarcabard or Tavnazia is good. Doing the same things at least 200th times while spending millions of gils (Because, if you don't pay the entry fee yourself, then everybody want to sell the currencies to earn some gils) is just...tedious.

Watching someone obtain an item they had worked years to get was also a great feeling.

For most items, you don't "work" for years. You work for days to be able to clear the content or kill the monster that drop the item (Leveling time not incuded). And then, you go there again and again until a dice-roll decides to favor you. No skill, no strat, no deep understanding of the game mechanics...just pure RNG.

[Fahad]

I'm back lol

[Fahad]

Ok let me elaborate .., my gf wanted a game to play together (yaay got a gf ...) also , RR and HW are free from subscription and she kept hearing about it .... so she downloaded the demo 14 days trial and she loved it. now I am playing to help her through learning what is an MMO and what is FFXIV... also I am re learning everything since the game is so different for me . its a cool casual stream for me . and a walk though memory lane .. hope by the time (if she keep going) we do stormblood toogether ... will see. nice to be back

[Renalt]

Haha. We all come back to games we think we might be done with. Sometimes the best thing to do is take a step back and give it a rest before picking up again.

[Fahad]

Haha. We all come back to games we think we might be done with. Sometimes the best thing to do is take a step back and give it a rest before picking up again.

few things are different this time, 1- I changed server to actually one near me
2- I am spectator since i am maxed for the the first two expansions
3- I am doing it on my own time
4- technically Im not doing anything new except re learning since im not doing new contents

[Fyrebrand]

Alright, who's the troll who necro'd an old post from 2017 -- oh, it's actually the OP, lol. Welcome back! Glad you and your girlfriend are enjoying the game together.

Stormblood is being added to the free trial as well, I believe when the new expansion drops (someone correct me if I'm wrong about the timing). That'll be a while from now, but you have a lot of game to get through in the meantime.

I am spectator since i am maxed for the the first two expansions

Do you know about the New Game Plus feature? Basically, it lets you replay all the story quests. You could use it to follow along with what your GF is doing at the same time and get a refresher on the story, rather than just watch her character model stand still in a cutscene.

[Fahad]

Alright, who's the troll who necro'd an old post from 2017 -- oh, it's actually the OP, lol. Welcome back! Glad you and your girlfriend are enjoying the game together.

Stormblood is being added to the free trial as well, I believe when the new expansion drops (someone correct me if I'm wrong about the timing). That'll be a while from now, but you have a lot of game to get through in the meantime.

you mean stormblood will be given the same treatment as RR and HW ???without subscription ? which most likely to be on sale ??! thats extra for me !!!!

[Avoidy]

most wholesome necropost ever. wb