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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachia View Post
    Thought the last patch dropped in January, with the expansion releasing in summer... meaning about six months which is a half a year and not a whole year.
    6.5 will have a week worth of content at best, unless they surprise us. Yes, almost a whole year with nothing. Add that to the year and a half of Endwalker without any lasting content. It's understandable why people are bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    So the game and developers shouldnt take veterans like us into account? The game for every expansion, every patch release must always be centred around new players? Many new players don't have great attention spans for games like this and that should not be catered to, I am fine with people leaving the game and quitting.
    We still get new content. That content not being interesting to you is a different issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brill_ View Post
    6.5 will have a week worth of content at best, unless they surprise us. Yes, almost a whole year with nothing. Add that to the year and a half of Endwalker without any lasting content. It's understandable why people are bored.
    The only ones bored are the rapid content consumers with a very narrow area of interest in the game's content.

    Other players have plenty to do. They don't get to play 12-16 hours a day. They're lucky to play that much in a month, let alone a day or a week. They'll be spending their time getting all the things that you already got while they were at work or school. They'll spend their time doing the things you aren't interested in doing.

    If you're a rapid content consumer, you are always going to end up at a loss for things to do unless a game introduces a grindy power progression system that the player base decides is mandatory, such as WoW did. And WoW proceeded to lose most of its player base as a result because most people just don't have enough free time to keep up with what the rapid content consumers demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    We still get new content. That content not being interesting to you is a different issue.


    The only ones bored are the rapid content consumers with a very narrow area of interest in the game's content.

    Other players have plenty to do. They don't get to play 12-16 hours a day. They're lucky to play that much in a month, let alone a day or a week. They'll be spending their time getting all the things that you already got while they were at work or school. They'll spend their time doing the things you aren't interested in doing.

    If you're a rapid content consumer, you are always going to end up at a loss for things to do unless a game introduces a grindy power progression system that the player base decides is mandatory, such as WoW did. And WoW proceeded to lose most of its player base as a result because most people just don't have enough free time to keep up with what the rapid content consumers demand.
    "rapid content consumers"

    except if you play 10 minutes a week, you'll be done with the new content in a week, a grand maximum of 2 weeks at most and that's if you are slowing yourself down on purpose just to slow content consumption

    also cba with the wow comparisons all the time , zzz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If you're a rapid content consumer, you are always going to end up at a loss for things to do unless a game introduces a grindy power progression system that the player base decides is mandatory, such as WoW did. And WoW proceeded to lose most of its player base as a result because most people just don't have enough free time to keep up with what the rapid content consumers demand.
    You don't have to be a "rapid content consumer" to run into issues. Namely because, for anyone who is caught up with the story and done a good chunk of side content, the offerings of each patch are downright pitiful. Like let's look at what 6.5 will have...

    An hour or two of MSQ
    Alliance raid that you can also do in an hour or two.
    Small updates to spreadsheet simu- I mean, Island Sanctuary.
    Timegated custom delivery quests.
    Another set of 1500 tomestone relics (while most people will have 1500 before the patch goes out, so that's basically zero time or effort needed for your main jobs relic)

    So we have an additional, what, day of content to last us until the expansion? A week at most if you aren't a "rapid content consumer". It's a joke.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    We still get new content. That content not being interesting to you is a different issue.


    The only ones bored are the rapid content consumers with a very narrow area of interest in the game's content.

    Other players have plenty to do. They don't get to play 12-16 hours a day. They're lucky to play that much in a month, let alone a day or a week. They'll be spending their time getting all the things that you already got while they were at work or school. They'll spend their time doing the things you aren't interested in doing.

    If you're a rapid content consumer, you are always going to end up at a loss for things to do unless a game introduces a grindy power progression system that the player base decides is mandatory, such as WoW did. And WoW proceeded to lose most of its player base as a result because most people just don't have enough free time to keep up with what the rapid content consumers demand.
    Even if you only play an hour a day it will only take a week to finish a majority of a patch except for savage raids
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    "rapid content consumers"

    except if you play 10 minutes a week, you'll be done with the new content in a week, a grand maximum of 2 weeks at most and that's if you are slowing yourself down on purpose just to slow content consumption

    also cba with the wow comparisons all the time , zzz
    Please don't exaggerate how quickly someone can get all the new content done. Also don't forget some players are going to repeat the content even if you're not interested in doing so.

    As for the WoW comparisons, it's because that's the other MMO that I played the longest and most of the others were WoW knock offs.

    If you have experience with other MMORPGs that did things differently to keep the rapid content consumers engaged longer, maybe share what you saw happening in those games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    Even if you only play an hour a day it will only take a week to finish a majority of a patch except for savage raids
    Will they have earned all the new gear, minions, mounts and other rewards they want from the new content in just 7 hours?

    I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    Will they have earned all the new gear, minions, mounts and other rewards they want from the new content in just 7 hours?

    I don't think so.
    We shouldn't have to go back to previous expansions to get every mount minion and glam piece because of the lack of content in the current one. If the game continued to get the same amount of content and variety of content we got during arr-stormblood ff14 wouldnt be getting more and more complaints since shadowbringers with a lack of content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    We shouldn't have to go back to previous expansions to get every mount minion and glam piece because of the lack of content in the current one. If the game continued to get the same amount of content and variety of content we got during arr-stormblood ff14 wouldnt be getting more and more complaints since shadowbringers with a lack of content.
    They will tell you you have content to do if you didn't collect 20,000 Accursed Hoards from PotD lmao
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    If you have to go back to old expansions just to find stuff to do, especially after the first week of patch release, then maybe, just maybe, the current expansion doesn't have good, if any, long lasting content.

    Not everyone is going to smash their head against a brick wall going for 10,000 collectibles and 20,000 accursed hoard. People aren't going to do shit they aren't interested in doing. It isn't that hard to comprehend
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    Last edited by Zairava; 08-04-2023 at 12:27 AM. Reason: fixed a typo

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    They will tell you you have content to do if you didn't collect 20,000 Accursed Hoards from PotD lmao
    When people bring up "did you get every fish entry or 20000 accursed hoards" i find it as an excuse or defense of the dev team for the lack of content we have when compared to how we used to get so much more when the game first came out. The dev team got complacent in the games success that they know people will gladly defend everything they do and not question anything.
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