Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
I agree that something otherworldly like Sea/Promyvion would be cool also.
This is what I'm talking about. The premise of work and effort to reach said areas, not the fact it came from expansions, but what you had to do and progress in order to do it, something hugely missing from MMOs of today.

We have been over the whole old school MMO thing before, players in todays market don't want time sinks they want fun,
They do want fun, they can play offline games for that, I'm not even talking about "back in my day" I'm talking about what MMORPGs are supposed to be...and only someone who never played MMOs before would seriously think an online single player game is what an MMORPG is supposed to be.

Sadly you are in a small minority of players that want hardcore gaming and time sinks to make them feel good about themselves.
It's funny how you get defensive when you say I consider you one of the people who hate FFXI, yet here you are the main one talking shit about someone, every time.

I agree that the game could do with being a little more difficult and content that requires more skill to complete, but I sure as hell don't' want it to be as much hard work as FF11, that game was like having a second job.
It felt like a second job if you let it. Pretty much every MMO before they dumbed it down felt like a second job, why? You actually had to dedicate time and effort to get what you wanted.