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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    ...but that's completely irrelevant to Roe's counterargument.
    I don't really give a shit.

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    It doesn't matter why SGE is the way it is, what matters is that it has always BEEN the way it is. This is the only incarnation it's had.
    You mean an incarnation that has objectively failed to accomplish the identity the job was directed stated as having? MCH also was only ever gun mage during HW, and that changed too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I don't really give a shit.
    Well, we WERE having a cordial conversation. Way to break it, Ty.

    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    You mean an incarnation that has objectively failed to accomplish the identity the job was directed stated as having? MCH also was only ever gun mage during HW, and that changed too.
    I mean, it heals by doing damage. But again, this is irrelevant.

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    Answer me this:

    IF Yoshi P came to you right now and said "We will change 3 healers and leave 1 the same. This is non-negotiable. Choose which.", which would you pick to leave as it is?

    You want WHM changed to a former incarnation and say so all the time.
    You want SCH changed to a former incarnation and say so all the time.
    You want AST changed to a former incarnation and say so all the time.
    SGE has had no former incarnation, but you're desperate to have it for your class fantasy.

    So which would you pick to not change?

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    EDIT:

    I'm not going to waste another post on you when you're acting like this, Ty.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 06-14-2023 at 06:06 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Well, we WERE having a cordial conversation. Way to break it, Ty.
    Complain about someone else's attitude. I'm not playing your games anymore. I was not the one who made an argument for preserving the old, so there's no reason to bring that argument to my point. That is why I don't give a shit. It wasn't about you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Answer me this:

    IF Yoshi P came to you right now and said "We will change 3 healers and leave 1 the same. This is non-negotiable. Choose which.", which would you pick to leave as it is?
    This is strikingly similar to the "if you were trapped on a desert island" question you hear when someone is trying to goad vegetarians into admitting they'd eat fish to survive. In the name of survival, Astrologian. There's actually some amount of substance to Astrologian's gameplay despite the Malefic spam it's also subjected to.
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