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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Blaming a person providing feedback on their experience with a feature in game is pointless. In fact, it's quite harmful when evidence of other games doing a better job exists. It sends the message "No, we don't want the game to be better, it's your fault and things can stay as they are. Go SE!"

    When's the last time "its current year" was valid feedback.


    They have SEVERAL notifications for inventory being full, not just a single one when it actually fills. There's a UI element on screen at all times that shows the current state of your inventory.



    What OP is asking for is why we have confirmation boxes on everything, which just makes the UI clunkier. At some point personal accountability has to come into play here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    When's the last time "its current year" was valid feedback.


    They have SEVERAL notifications for inventory being full, not just a single one when it actually fills. There's a UI element on screen at all times that shows the current state of your inventory.



    What OP is asking for is why we have confirmation boxes on everything, which just makes the UI clunkier. At some point personal accountability has to come into play here.
    Nothing about losing an item because you forgot to check is better UI wise than a confirmation.

    you know what's clunky? having SEVERAL notifications for inventory being full, not just a single one when it actually fills. It could all be cleaned up with a simple confirmation if you do forget to check your inventory and it happens to be full.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 04-02-2023 at 04:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Nothing about losing an item because you forgot to check is better UI wise than a confirmation.

    you know what's clunky? having SEVERAL notifications for inventory being full, not just a single one when it actually fills. It could all be cleaned up with a simple confirmation if you do forget to check your inventory and it happens to be full.

    If we had no way of seeing, without opening inventory, that it was full, I'd be all for it. But we DO have tools to do so. The OP simply isn't using them.


    I've never heard someone complain about getting MORE warning that your inventory is getting full. That's a new one lol. And I wouldn't consider that clunky. It doesn't force you to hit a button when the message pops up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I've never heard someone complain about getting MORE warning that your inventory is getting full.
    You are posting in a thread that functionally amounts to that. Right here, right now.

    It feels like the goal post shifted a bit here as well as it's no longer about the UI becoming clunky. But I am explicitly interested in improving the UI more than winning any argument and you highlighted exactly the problem that I have with the UI, and one possible solution for it.

    1. On one hand you have a three tier warning message and a catastrophe in which the process is this:
    - Hey you have 3 slots left
    - Hey you have 2 slots left
    - Hey you have 1 slot left
    - Oh hey, too bad

    I will mention that the text in red is also really easy to ignore. For which reasons I cannot say but I definitely don't pay too much attention to them even though I haven't been a huge victim of this issue.

    2. On the other hand we have another system that eradicates all those warning messages and solves the catastrophe which is this:
    - Oh hey your inventory is full do you want to discard an item from your inventory or lose it?

    To me it's clear a solution is one single method that eliminates all the warning messages and avoids the tragedy of ignoring them in one fell swoop. Not only is it more efficient but it is more proactive in solving the problem rather than merely warning against it.


    Can you, and ignoring who is making this post, for all it matters it is some stranger out there who anonymously left these two proposed systems in your desk for review, in good conscience say that the first system is better than the second?

    That is why I support the OP and acknowledge there is a better way to do this and it should get looked into, regardless of what tools we have in place. If it was so effective a customer wouldn't have gone through the trouble of posting in the forums and going as far as attaching a screenshot to it. There is literally no reason this couldn't be improved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    You are posting in a thread that functionally amounts to that. Right here, right now.

    It feels like the goal post shifted a bit here as well as it's no longer about the UI becoming clunky. But I am explicitly interested in improving the UI more than winning any argument and you highlighted exactly the problem that I have with the UI, and one possible solution for it.

    1. On one hand you have a three tier warning message and a catastrophe in which the process is this:
    - Hey you have 3 slots left
    - Hey you have 2 slots left
    - Hey you have 1 slot left
    - Oh hey, too bad

    I will mention that the text in red is also really easy to ignore. For which reasons I cannot say but I definitely don't pay too much attention to them even though I haven't been a huge victim of this issue.

    2. On the other hand we have another system that eradicates all those warning messages and solves the catastrophe which is this:
    - Oh hey your inventory is full do you want to discard an item from your inventory or lose it?

    To me it's clear a solution is one single method that eliminates all the warning messages and avoids the tragedy of ignoring them in one fell swoop. Not only is it more efficient but it is more proactive in solving the problem rather than merely warning against it.


    Can you, and ignoring who is making this post, for all it matters it is some stranger out there who anonymously left these two proposed systems in your desk for review, in good conscience say that the first system is better than the second?

    That is why I support the OP and acknowledge there is a better way to do this and it should get looked into, regardless of what tools we have in place. If it was so effective a customer wouldn't have gone through the trouble of posting in the forums and going as far as attaching a screenshot to it. There is literally no reason this couldn't be improved.
    can't tell if you actually trolling or not but as per your one line...yeah a customer who can't be bothered to properly maintain their own inventory so takes to forums to make a solution so they still don't have to maintain their inventory lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    can't tell if you actually trolling or not but as per your one line...yeah a customer who can't be bothered to properly maintain their own inventory so takes to forums to make a solution so they still don't have to maintain their inventory lol
    What world are you from? People pay thousands of dollars a month for maids and assistance so they don't have to deal with their own BS. Yes. Customers who can't be bothered to do anything right is 99% of customers. Thats why things are always built to be as easy to use as possible.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 04-02-2023 at 09:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    When's the last time "its current year" was valid feedback.
    Since that time when the feedback was actually "a temporary inventory, that a player can use while they reorganize their current inventory."
    So, as of this thread. It's valid, you're just henpecking at the exhibition of their frustration.
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