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    Arcturus Whisperwind
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    I am a latecomer to these discussions, I have never posted in the Forum before. But given the continuous proclamation that goes like "95% of players love it, who are you to object", I feel like it's my duty to detail my dissatisfaction, lest the fact that I am still paying my monthly subscription is taken by the developers as I am loving it.

    Quote Originally Posted by tokinokanatae View Post
    It's weird to me that in an expansion that lauds the idea of never giving up hope, that even the "situations of despair" those other societies had fallen to--that the Scions attempt to answer in their sacrifices--there still might have been a way for them to live on and find happiness, ONLY the Ancients are subject to this bizarre, "nope, chuck them in the trash, they were done, the moment you go into a tailspin your plane is doomed to crash so you might as well let go of the controls entirely" reaction. I would put forth even if the Ancients were about to make a horrible mistake, they still had the right to MAKE that mistake. FFXIV is a game that puts forth the idea that as long as you don't give up, you can atone for horrible things. I believe even the Ancients at their worst could have still had better days ahead of them, just like every other single person or society we see in the game, including those in the Dead Ends.
    This is exactly how I feel about the situation regarding the Ancients. Somehow they are singled out as the ONE group that doesn't deserve to hope, to live on. Somehow they alone deserved to be wiped out, everybody else deserve to persevere, but nope, not the Ancients. The most hilarious thing is that some people keep dismissing these opinions regarding Venat as "Ancient lovers just want to hate Venat". It couldn't be further from the truth in my case. Back in Shadowbringer, I was exactly those that want to stick game texts to the screen of those who couldn't stop gushing about how "perfect" the Ancient society was, so that they can properly read them. And yet here I am, despairing at people's ability to be consistent. Regardless of how "imperfect" that society was, regardless of what flaws they had, declaring that they deserved to be wiped out by one woman flies in the face of the morals of Shadowbringer.

    5.0: No matter how imperfect, or flawed, people deserve to live.
    6.0: lol nope, this particular group deserved to be wiped out for their flaws.

    Seriously.

    And the sad thing is I adored Venat so much at the beginning of Elpis. She's portrayed as this unconventional, but brave, kind, and adventurous woman who loves people. I wish I can get that Venat back.

    [Edit] I forgot, I agreed completely with people that just by wiping her memory together with Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus, a lot of this could already be prevented. Or just not do this time-travel at all, use the Echo! I don't know why they chose the worse possible way to go about it.
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    Last edited by ArcturusWhisper; 04-01-2023 at 10:18 PM.