Change/Remove Lalafell "Lifter"...

[Bunnycake]

Happy this post is partially on subject so I can respond to the other section.

1) I wasn't kicked out of anything. If you paid attention instead of skimming, I was on Aether, and the discords I mentioned were on Crystal, that I was in for research but didn't actually engage with because that wasn't my home. It was an example of how someone could take an event from one data center and share it to another without context and cause problems. The only Aether venue that actually removed me had a venue owner that got flack afterward when they made it public at my request that they had a policy of banning people from their venue off of accusations alone, and you'd have to prove yourself innocent after. I even had them apologize to me afterward in DM's when I showed them proof they banned me for no reason. I left because I knew 4+ owners on Aether that knew about malicious things in the community and they wanted to look away and did not care.

2) I HATE LALAFELL NSFW. *GRABS YOUR EAR, AND YANKS YOU CLOSE TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR ME* WHAT PART OF RESPECT DO PEOPLE MISS WHEN I'M SPEAKING. If I wanted to call out anything I thought was gross, I'd be going to every makeup mod artist on twitter and telling them that splashing a rainbow on their face is gross. But I know how to keep my mouth shut because my personal taste/opinion isn't important because at the end of the day, no matter how loud I could bark about it, they'd still exist with a large market of interest, same as lalafell. You speaking your opinion doesn't manifest any meaningful results besides harassment.

3) No, they cannot exclude people for any reason. In private settings, yes, but in public, no. Not from communities.
"Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc."
(Except when in accordance with rules set by an administrator such as a Free Company Master)

Outside of the unrealism of having to teach conversation tricks/corners to wall people into a violation to every random lalafell in the community, it's off-game exclusion that often I have a problem with. Most venues are actually easy to get banned once you know the tricks because they're rude and think they can ban anyone for any reason out of their venue and that's not the case. You need a reason for it, and it can't be just any reason such as one of the examples given: ""Don't join if your equipment is that bad/such a low item level." That isn't allowed. But most, will try to argue and end breaking "Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion." because they don't know how to debate and be understanding of other people. They want to think their word is God when Square wants people to be understanding and have healthy conversations.

Okay, but what's the excuse of you literally stalking this person
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6212829

[AzanathEU]

The dark seedy underbelly of the Ff14 Community: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.".

[VoidsentStatus]

Okay, but what's the excuse of you literally stalking this person
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6212829

It's a FC house. It's on lodestone. The only people that often say gil is useless is people that don't have significant investment in the game and you check that on lodestone. They have no crafters or gatherers level'd past a handful at 50. They don't raid hardcore. They're not ranked up in Eureka, and barely mostly done with Bozja, but nowhere near enough to farm gil since they haven't hit Rank 25 yet. They only have 2 forum posts in 4 years and decided to log in to critique me and dismiss lalafell while claiming they have 50mil. They have 0 access to any of the big/main gil making methods. I would love to see someone grind out 50mil through deep dungeons, treasure maps, roulette's, maybe selling rp services at best for absolutely zero reason because all the gil they just farmed out over months is useless in their opinion. I don't see it. You don't just casually make 50mil. I can go into any MMO and play casually and claim in-game cash is pointless.

[piipiipii]

You're a grown adult playing a "child-like" character for no reason other than the memes or because you want attention. The only logical solution left as to why you would play a character like this is for creepy reasons. It's not funny and never was funny. If you want to play a short race make the adults in-game as short as possible. LALAS are not the samething as dwarfs or midgets. They are children validated in the lore with childlike tendencies.

This is clearly bait but I'll indulge you -

Firstly -

LALAS are not the samething as dwarfs or midgets. They are children validated in the lore with childlike tendencies.

This statement is just blatantly false. I'm not entirely certain that you and I played the same game if you completed the main story and somehow emerged with this belief. There is literally a race identical to Lalafells referred to as dwarves that the MSQ forces you to interact with.

Secondly -

Physical appearance aside, (for now) and since you're dedicated to arguing semantics, the Lalafells in lore are far more often shown as intelligent, conniving bastards rather than helpless children. In fact, having played the MSQ and much of the side content I struggle to recall any examples of the latter save Nanamo whose entire arc is based on her growing up and learning how to deal with a great deal of responsibility. On that note, the Tarutarus of FFXI are far, far more childlike in mannerisms than the Lalafells of XIV and I don't think I've ever seen anyone accuse the entire Taru playerbase of being pedophiles (like you just did) likely because the XI community isn't afflicted with terminal brain rot and is able to separate fiction from reality.

Do you know why I chose Lalafell?

Because I like how they look. Does that bother you? Has your brain been so warped by pornography that you're incapable of understanding that someone's aesthetic preferences are not a reflection of their sexual preferences?

Your insane indictment of a fraction of the playerbase has no weight. Do people seriously believe that the act of rolling a Lalafell is somehow weirder than the modbeasts who spend real time and money perfecting the color of their PC's nether regions?

Well, sorry for being in what seems like the minority of the playerbase that plays this game two-handed. I hope many of you in this thread gain a shred of common sense and understand that a player character in an MMO isn't implicitly sexual.

[Shinkuno]

This is clearly bait but I'll indulge you -

Firstly -

This statement is just blatantly false. I'm not entirely certain that you and I played the same game if you completed the main story and somehow emerged with this belief. There is literally a race identical to Lalafells referred to as dwarves that the MSQ forces you to interact with.

Secondly -

Physical appearance aside, (for now) and since you're dedicated to arguing semantics, the Lalafells in lore are far more often shown as intelligent, conniving bastards rather than helpless children. In fact, having played the MSQ and much of the side content I struggle to recall any examples of the latter save Nanamo whose entire arc is based on her growing up and learning how to deal with a great deal of responsibility. On that note, the Tarutarus of FFXI are far, far more childlike in mannerisms than the Lalafells of XIV and I don't think I've ever seen anyone accuse the entire Taru playerbase of being pedophiles (like you just did) likely because the XI community isn't afflicted with terminal brain rot and is able to separate fiction from reality.

Do you know why I chose Lalafell?

Because I like how they look. Does that bother you? Has your brain been so warped by pornography that you're incapable of understanding that someone's aesthetic preferences are not a reflection of their sexual preferences?

Your insane indictment of a fraction of the playerbase has no weight. Do people seriously believe that the act of rolling a Lalafell is somehow weirder than the modbeasts who spend real time and money perfecting the color of their PC's nether regions?

Well, sorry for being in what seems like the minority of the playerbase that plays this game two-handed. I hope many of you in this thread gain a shred of common sense and understand that a player character in an MMO isn't implicitly sexual.

if you play them cause you like how they look, why does it bother you if that certain look is childish? especially when you claim to have no sexual intentions.

[piipiipii]

if you play them cause you like how they look, why does it bother you if that certain look is childish? especially when you claim to have no sexual intentions.

I never said it bothered me. There's nothing wrong with childlike whimsy, what I disagree with is the absurd notion that Lalafells are equivalent to real human children.

[TWOxACROSS]

I know how to keep my mouth shut

Then please, exercise this knowledge.

You have been up and down this thread saying a whole lot of weird stuff only tangentially related to the topic; bragging about how much gil you have made; talking about threatening to tank server markets because people crossed you; and denigrating others for what kind of house they may have; yet then also talking about in-game and IRL harassment? There's no point. You're getting into arguments with strangers on the internet over literally nothing, in a thread about a dumb chair.

Be gracious and don't bother responding to me, I have enough novels to read.

[VoidsentStatus]

Then please, exercise this knowledge.

You have been up and down this thread saying a whole lot of weird stuff only tangentially related to the topic; bragging about how much gil you have made; talking about threatening to tank server markets because people crossed you; and denigrating others for what kind of house they may have; yet then also talking about in-game and IRL harassment? There's no point. You're getting into arguments with strangers on the internet over literally nothing, in a thread about a dumb chair.

Be gracious and don't bother responding to me, I have enough novels to read.

Cool, but only if tag the other people and give them the same advice, matter of fact let me write it up for you:

"You have been up and down this thread saying a whole lot of harassment statements against various lalafell in the thread only tangentially related to the topic; accusing people of botting on the forums; bringing external Bozja beef into a thread about housing; calling people pedophiles; making provocative statements with blatantly false baselines; yet then wanting to play the victim and act like someone else is the villain? There's no point. You're getting into arguments with strangers on the internet over literally nothing, in a thread about a dumb chair.

Be gracious and don't bother responding to me, I have enough novels to read."

[WilhelmWhite]

It's a FC house. It's on lodestone. The only people that often say gil is useless is people that don't have significant investment in the game and you check that on lodestone. They have no crafters or gatherers level'd past a handful at 50. They don't raid hardcore. They're not ranked up in Eureka, and barely mostly done with Bozja, but nowhere near enough to farm gil since they haven't hit Rank 25 yet. They only have 2 forum posts in 4 years and decided to log in to critique me and dismiss lalafell while claiming they have 50mil. They have 0 access to any of the big/main gil making methods. I would love to see someone grind out 50mil through deep dungeons, treasure maps, roulette's, maybe selling rp services at best for absolutely zero reason because all the gil they just farmed out over months is useless in their opinion. I don't see it. You don't just casually make 50mil. I can go into any MMO and play casually and claim in-game cash is pointless.

While I apologized for my earlier comments, this is not ok. You can't advocate for people "wanting to do whatever they want, and play in peace", and then say this. At the end of the day, in game currency really DOES NOT mean anything, and trying to make it seem like someone has to be as invested as you are in the game to criticize you is a shitty take. Gil/Property in the game may mean more to you in the RP/Venue community, but for many people, it has absolutely no bearing on their enjoyment of the game. No matter how much they do or don't have.

You: "Everyone should be able to play the way they want, and enjoy the things they want in the game"
Also you: "Don't talk to me if you don't have all of your crafters leveled, don't have a large house, don't do savage raiding, and don't have max rank in Bozja/Eureka."

Make it make sense my guy.

[Very_Good]

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