PLEASE update Trusts

[SapphireWeapon]

Going through alt jobs, I decided to level up DPS classes along with my Trusts in order to get around wait times, and it is agonizing. I don't think I've cleared a single SHB dungeon in under 28 minutes, which is an insanely long amount of time compared to playing with other people.

The reason for this is because the Trust AI only attacks one enemy at a time. Even if I force Thancred to pull multiple groups, it doesn't matter. My DPS partner will still just focus fire one by one. Trust DPS doesn't do a whole lot of damage to begin with, and between their low damage and their one-at-a-time approach, it just slogs on and on and on.

Please just make them AOE trash pulls. Please. For the love of god. I'm suffering.

[Saraide]

This is on purpose to make them weaker than playing with actual players.

[Heavenchild]

It's really very slow with the NPCs. But I don't think that they are going to change this. Because for being slow, we have the advantage to get all the loot.

If Trust wouldn't have the disadvantage of beeing slow..., why people should still que with other people? If Trust would be fast, the NPCs do the mechanics correct most of the time and you get all the loot..., then the motivation to que with other people would be very low.

To make Trust slow is maybe the only way to solve this.
But it would be nice, if there would be an opportunity to have stronger Trust buddies when you 1st run a dungeon during the MSQ. : )

[Absurdity]

That's entirely on purpose, Trusts are designed to be worse than even the average player to encourage playing with other people.

[SapphireWeapon]

This is on purpose to make them weaker than playing with actual players.

That's entirely on purpose, Trusts are designed to be worse than even the average player to encourage playing with other people.

Except, the newly added Heavensward Duty Support AIs use AOE attacks. I literally just went into Sohm Al to doublecheck, and Estinien is doing the thing as I'm typing this.

There is absolutely no reason for the SHB Trusts to not work the same way. It's ridiculous.

[Saraide]

Except, the newly added Heavensward Duty Support AIs use AOE attacks. I literally just went into Sohm Al to doublecheck, and Estinien is doing the thing as I'm typing this.

There is absolutely no reason for the SHB Trusts to not work the same way. It's ridiculous.

You are missing the point. They are intentionally slow. By which manner they achieve being slow is irrelevant.

[SapphireWeapon]

You are missing the point. They are intentionally slow. By which manner they achieve being slow is irrelevant.

So why is it okay for the Duty Support to function one way and the Trusts to function another? "Well that's just how it is" isn't a good reason for not changing/fixing something.

I can't imagine how jarring it would be as a new player using Duty Support for ARR and HW and then getting to Shadowbringers and suddenly it sucks to play with the AI when it never did before.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

It… really doesn’t matter whether they’re AoEing or not. Trust NPCs damage output behaves like a rubberband, adjusting themselves according to how well you’re performing. They hit harder if you’re playing poorly or afk, but lowers their damage if you’re playing better. This is pretty noticeable in trash pulls where your dps are very likely skyrocketing with that many targets multiplying your total damage output.

[Saraide]

So why is it okay for the Duty Support to function one way and the Trusts to function another? "Well that's just how it is" isn't a good reason for not changing/fixing something.

I can't imagine how jarring it would be as a new player using Duty Support for ARR and HW and then getting to Shadowbringers and suddenly it sucks to play with the AI when it never did before.

ARR and HW duty supports are also slower than doing those dungeons with actual players. A player going through all of it with duty support will have dungeons that take longer all the way through. It's all listed under duty support now btw. Group up with actual players if you want to go fast.

[Knot_D]

You can run with Squadron till HW content. Their HP also bigger than Duty Support's HP that you don't have to heal them at all.