Why Is Dynamis Dead

[VerdeLuck]

I can't say that I'm happy with the type of players a twitch streamer brings over, but I guess if it reduces queue times from the 45+ minutes I've been getting on alliance and levelling roulette at peak times, or over an hour I waited last night for a Dun Scaith queue to try to do the tome event.

[Padudu]

I'll get to the irony part when I reply to Oizen

Except what you're describing is peak times, and even during peak times, PF at least is still dead lol. Past peak? Yeah you're not getting anything. Frontlines? Yeah, also not getting anything lol.

What criteria are you using that it's alive? Just because you can successfully que for things on Materia during peak times doesn't make it any less dead, also doesn't really change the fact that most people are not queuing for content in Dynamis. Doesn't also invalidate the fact that people are waiting nearly an hour or over on Dynamis for certain ques.

It's like saying getting 1x peak rush hour a day in a restaurant means it's alive.

[Deveryn]

I can't say that I'm happy with the type of players a twitch streamer brings over, but I guess if it reduces queue times from the 45+ minutes I've been getting on alliance and levelling roulette at peak times, or over an hour I waited last night for a Dun Scaith queue to try to do the tome event.

At least she's been committed to the game.

[Ardeth]

It was good to see actually people in Limsa. Whether they DC traveled over or they're here to stay it was fun to actually have a community even if it was only for a night.

I don't know how I feel about being on a streamer server, but I want to say we used to have a few back on Coeurl.

[Deveryn]

It was good to see actually people in Limsa. Whether they DC traveled over or they're here to stay it was fun to actually have a community even if it was only for a night.

I don't know how I feel about being on a streamer server, but I want to say we used to have a few back on Coeurl.

I can't imagine it's all that bad. She seems to just run the content, so it's not like there are huge crowds all the time. Other streamers I know of seem to be the same way. I've only ever heard of venues causing any kind of disturbance.

[Oizen]

Same question to you. What criteria are you using to say that Dynamis is dead?

It doesn't have enough players to do bare minimum content.
There are frequent PFs from players begging for someone to run Alliance Raids, or even unpopular dungeons unsynced just to get through them.
I dont know how you get any more dead than that, not being able to fill out 4 player content quickly.

Seems like just about everyone in this thread is using PF as proof that Dynamis is dead. Is that not why you're traveling to other data centers, so you can use PF there?

Do you genuinely not see the irony in your statement when you are traveling elsewhere to find people to fill spots in group for the content you want to do while not being interested in filling spots in groups for other players trying to get the content they want to do done? That's all PF is - a way to find people to fill groups just as Duty Finder is.

Well thats more of a symptom of DC Travel in the first place, its had a negative effect on every single data center that isn't named Aether. You cannot clear the current Savage tier in Crystal PF, it doesn't get the parties.

In many ways, Dynamis was robbed of what little players it has by the existence of DC Travel, though a lot of those players likely wouldn't have transferred in the first place if it wasn't for that system.
The only take away from this is that the Dynamis expansion in the first place was unnecessary. Maybe back during the rush of Endwalker, but definitely not now.

If you don't care about the population on Dynamis and you've been using data center travel since it was first implemented, why are you complaining?

I'm not. I know you love to shove your own words down other peoples throats, then argue with that instead to make yourself sound smart, you really need to stop it its a bad habit.

Its not a complaint to say Dynamis is dead, its a statement. People are talking about why here, some are upset, some aren't. Doesn't matter how you feel about it, its a fact that the DC is currently dead.
I just don't care about being on a dead server.

[Ardeth]

I can't imagine it's all that bad. She seems to just run the content, so it's not like there are huge crowds all the time. Other streamers I know of seem to be the same way. I've only ever heard of venues causing any kind of disturbance.

It wasn't that bad back on Coeurl. I remember I once teleported into a free mount/minion give away and got a mini out of it. Like I said it wasn't that bad and this server desperately needs to the traffic.

[DixieBellOCE]

DC Travel is what is killing Crystal's pf, not that it's a surprise DC travel is also what is making them die. It's a hard line to cross.

Well crystal isn't exactly the 'raiding' datacenter.

Each datacenter has its demographic, the people that want to raid just go visit the DC that has the better raiders. The ones that want some roleplay action, head over to Crystal.

Its a new time for XIV, you can live anywhere and play anywhere.

the 30 seconds it takes to DC travel isn't going to hurt anyone, you raid, then you go home. easy.

[Padudu]

Well crystal isn't exactly the 'raiding' datacenter.

Each datacenter has its demographic, the people that want to raid just go visit the DC that has the better raiders. The ones that want some roleplay action, head over to Crystal.

Its a new time for XIV, you can live anywhere and play anywhere.

the 30 seconds it takes to DC travel isn't going to hurt anyone, you raid, then you go home. easy.

Well yeah, that's why it's killing Crystal's PF lmao.

Even casual PF - i.e trial mount farms, unsynced raids, those sorts of things are on the low.

I'm kinda neutral on it - it's neither here or there. I don't PF that much anymore, aside from boredom, but the one thing is for sure: you can sure feel the effects of DC travel.

[Jojoya]

Except what you're describing is peak times, and even during peak times, PF at least is still dead lol. Past peak? Yeah you're not getting anything. Frontlines? Yeah, also not getting anything lol.

What criteria are you using that it's alive? Just because you can successfully que for things on Materia during peak times doesn't make it any less dead, also doesn't really change the fact that most people are not queuing for content in Dynamis. Doesn't also invalidate the fact that people are waiting nearly an hour or over on Dynamis for certain ques.

It's like saying getting 1x peak rush hour a day in a restaurant means it's alive.

Except it's not peak times. I'm generally playing on Dynamis between 9pm and 4am Pacific. Prior to then, I'm usually on my Crystal characters.

What criteria am I using for saying it's alive? I'm seeing other players on the Dynamis worlds when I'm doing open world content. I'm getting parties formed reasonably quickly when I queue for duties. What other criteria is needed?

If you want to say Dynamis Party Finder is dead, I can't argue that point. But Party Finder is not the whole of the game or of a data center.

It doesn't have enough players to do bare minimum content.
There are frequent PFs from players begging for someone to run Alliance Raids, or even unpopular dungeons unsynced just to get through them.
I dont know how you get any more dead than that, not being able to fill out 4 player content quickly.


Well thats more of a symptom of DC Travel in the first place, its had a negative effect on every single data center that isn't named Aether. You cannot clear the current Savage tier in Crystal PF, it doesn't get the parties.

In many ways, Dynamis was robbed of what little players it has by the existence of DC Travel, though a lot of those players likely wouldn't have transferred in the first place if it wasn't for that system.
The only take away from this is that the Dynamis expansion in the first place was unnecessary. Maybe back during the rush of Endwalker, but definitely not now.


I'm not. I know you love to shove your own words down other peoples throats, then argue with that instead to make yourself sound smart, you really need to stop it its a bad habit.

Its not a complaint to say Dynamis is dead, its a statement. People are talking about why here, some are upset, some aren't. Doesn't matter how you feel about it, its a fact that the DC is currently dead.
I just don't care about being on a dead server.

So you use the one type of roulette (outside of PvP) that tends to have long queue times on all data centers as your proof?

Good going.

As for 4 player content, how is a 6 minute wait unacceptably long? I have yet to have a party fail to fill in a reasonable amount of time.

Saying that Dynamis is dead is not a statement of fact. It is your opinion. Stop trying to push it as fact.

For someone who doesn't care about Dynamis, you sure want to talk enough about it.