Why Is Dynamis Dead

[LianaThorne]

I think people need to be a little more honest about queue times rather than slapping 30m+ waits on EVERYTHING. I literally had Expert, 90, 50/60/70/80, Leveling and Trial pop within 5 minutes yesterday (3-6 PM EST) by being the role in need. The only one that flat out gave me difficulty (30-60m range) was Alliance Raid and Frontline. However, I have seen people PFing unsync CT raids so maybe that's just becoming the new way of doing it there because of how simple they are.

People who are also saying savage doesn't exist...no duh. People already had established statics on other DCs before Dynamis existed and anyone starting savage in general now is extremely late to the party. I wouldn't expect to see savage queues on Dynamis until the new tier drops and people reform their groups.

I'm really not trying to be that person but some of yall dramatize certain aspects of the DC. Again, it has been active for ONE MONTH. If it's in the same shape a year from now, I will gladly concede that people were right but judging it this early (especially when it's a dead period of content so not as many people are playing across all DCs rn) is jumping the gun.

Also, I find it strange how I can open the PF at random times and find 10-20+ PF ads but people here are only highlighting the times it's not active. I no-life this game pretty much (outside of the last few weeks because of a death in my family that pretty much turned my whole life upside down) so maybe I'm just seeing things others arent? I'll grab a photo next time lol.

[R041]

I think people need to be a little more honest about queue times rather than slapping 30m+ waits on EVERYTHING. I literally had Expert, 90, 50/60/70/80, Leveling and Trial pop within 5 minutes yesterday (3-6 PM EST) by being the role in need. The only one that flat out gave me difficulty (30-60m range) was Alliance Raid and Frontline. However, I have seen people PFing unsync CT raids so maybe that's just becoming the new way of doing it there because of how simple they are.

Not being dishonest, just not talking about Roulettes. Like sure if I wanna do Navel or Crystal Tower all day..

Do players roulette through their MSQ?

[Iscah]

I think people need to be a little more honest about queue times rather than slapping 30m+ waits on EVERYTHING. I literally had Expert, 90, 50/60/70/80, Leveling and Trial pop within 5 minutes yesterday (3-6 PM EST) by being the role in need. The only one that flat out gave me difficulty (30-60m range) was Alliance Raid and Frontline.

Were you queuing with a max level character, or doing it for EXP? I've similarly had long waits for alliance raids, and wonder if the "in need" thingy is fishing to fill a queue for Aglaia.

Do players roulette through their MSQ?

As in, do they run roulettes while they're still working through the story? I do when I'm playing with alts, because I'm usually levelling several jobs at once to share quest EXP or pursue glamour ideas.

[R041]

As in, do they run roulettes while they're still working through the story? I do when I'm playing with alts, because I'm usually levelling several jobs at once to share quest EXP or pursue glamour ideas.

It was a joke.

That's a bit different, but I respect your playstyle. New players still need to queue normally for story progression for the most part.

(Side rant) Maybe I wouldn't even have such a horrid taste for something like Duty Support if it didn't literally take twice as long as a normal run and feel twice as bad. Unless I'm the one healing - trying to do W2W is super sketchy most of the time, and they only like to even single target DPS.

And yeah, time will tell with 6.3, or worst case 7.0. I got my houses, and I tried not to be greedy about it - Hopefully things fill out.

[strawberrycake]

Ngl surprised this thread is still going.

That being said, the issue is simple, people should try to build their own server up instead of running to other servers. Thats simply how I feel. Don't really care if people think, see or feel differently as I am allowed to my own PoV.

That being said I'm very aware the game doesn't give players much reason to build up new servers. As for my own Experiences with Queue times, they've been bad, if not for you good, I am happy you've been lucky, but player experiences vary and always will. I think it's bad design to not incentivize players to build up a new set of servers bar housing and an exp buff. That being said.

Yeah it's barely been a month, got the houses I wanted, thats neat, still throwing up the occasional PF with friends hoping I can help people get into harder content on Dynamis, still helping people with low lvl content. Doesn;t change the dead feeling, Dead as in quiet/barely alive/not active.

It also makes no sense to me that I can see so many people standing in limsa afk, but thats just the norm for XIV as an MMO. Heres to 7.0 being more lively

[Deveryn]

Ngl surprised this thread is still going.

That being said, the issue is simple, people should try to build their own server up instead of running to other servers. Thats simply how I feel. Don't really care if people think, see or feel differently as I am allowed to my own PoV.

That being said I'm very aware the game doesn't give players much reason to build up new servers. As for my own Experiences with Queue times, they've been bad, if not for you good, I am happy you've been lucky, but player experiences vary and always will. I think it's bad design to not incentivize players to build up a new set of servers bar housing and an exp buff. That being said.

Yeah it's barely been a month, got the houses I wanted, thats neat, still throwing up the occasional PF with friends hoping I can help people get into harder content on Dynamis, still helping people with low lvl content. Doesn;t change the dead feeling, Dead as in quiet/barely alive/not active.

It also makes no sense to me that I can see so many people standing in limsa afk, but thats just the norm for XIV as an MMO. Heres to 7.0 being more lively

Don't be surprised. It's gonna go until well past 6.3 when people are actually returning and populating the DC.

[DeNada]

I think the issue is 90% of the population on Dynamis are made up of alts trying to get a house when they couldn't do so on their main servers.

So after finally getting a house, everyone just went back to playing on the main on their home servers, leaving the remaining 10% of actual new players diddling their thumbs waiting for the queues to pop. When that didn't happen, they too DC travel to other data centers to get working queue which exacerbates the situation even further. I honestly have no solutions for this problem unless SE decide to take drastic actions to even the server population by designating all old servers as congested, leaving people with no choices but to create new characters only on Dynamis but that would never happen.

[Jojoya]

I don't play the game to be a filler slot in another players MSQ run.

Disable DC travel and I'm transfering out, or just quitting honestly.

But you are complaining because other players aren't being the filler spots in the content you want to run.

Rather ironic, isn't it?

I honestly have no solutions for this problem unless SE decide to take drastic actions to even the server population by designating all old servers as congested, leaving people with no choices but to create new characters only on Dynamis but that would never happen.

Which wouldn't really change the situation from what it is now.

People look at PF but PF is more of an indicator of player activity at end game than player activity in general. If players are forced to make new characters on Dynamis, PF would still be empty because there's little reason to be using it while leveling.

In both cases, the issue gets solved over time as more characters reach level cap and want to be doing the end game content. But most of the unhappy players in this thread aren't willing to give it time and so end up going back to their old data centers, exacerbating the current problem.

If they're not willing to be the change they want, they shouldn't expect better from others.

[Oizen]

But you are complaining because other players aren't being the filler spots in the content you want to run.

Rather ironic, isn't it?

When the fuck did I ever say that?

Dynamis is dead. I don't care about that which is why I moved over there anyway. I've been living by DC travel since it came out, which is why leaving Crystal was so easy for me.

I would not have moved to dynamis if it wasn't for DC travel, and I have a hunch there are a lot in the same boat.

[Jojoya]

Where's the irony in saying that Dynamis is a dead server and that new players have to DC travel to do the MSQ? Older players/vets/ect have no incentive to DF queue in a dead server, like at all, and why would they stay around for an extremely long que for the handful of new players that don't know about DC travel? Would you do that? Or are you content with staying in Crystal for a ~5min que pop if you're tank/healer, and about 10-15mins for a DPS?

There's no complaints about filling for "filler content" - if Oizen wanted to find people to do filler content with, they would literally go to Aether. Bam, done. It doesn't solve the issue that the new servers are dead as hell, more or less.

I'll get to the irony part when I reply to Oizen below.

I've got 4 characters on Marilith. One is on the back burner for the moment (it's the character I created on Marilith for the gil bonus). One is on 4.0 MSQ - just finished Doma Castle (queued for it on Marilith, almost instant queue). One is on 6.0 MSQ - just did The Dark Inside. Again, queued for it on Marilith and that was a 6 minute queue but trial queues take longer so only 6 minutes was a nice surprise. The last is my Marilith main that just needs to get 6.2 MSQ done but I keep putting it off while working on house decorating and playing the other characters. I'll be honest - I'm expecting the queue for Storm's Crown to be a pain in the butt since it's the most recent trial and most Dynamis players are working on leveling alts through earlier parts of the MSQ. I might end up going to another data center to get it done.

I go out into the world and I see players. Not as many as I would on Crystal but I'm still seeing other players. Whether it's hunts or tribal quests or gathering, there are other players out there on the Dynamis worlds. Again, not as many as on other NA worlds but still enough that I can say without hesitation that Dynamis is not dead.

What criteria are you using to come to the conclusion that Dynamis is dead? Sitting alone in your house staring at PF?

When the fuck did I ever say that?

Dynamis is dead. I don't care about that which is why I moved over there anyway. I've been living by DC travel since it came out, which is why leaving Crystal was so easy for me.

I would not have moved to dynamis if it wasn't for DC travel, and I have a hunch there are a lot in the same boat.

Same question to you. What criteria are you using to say that Dynamis is dead?

Seems like just about everyone in this thread is using PF as proof that Dynamis is dead. Is that not why you're traveling to other data centers, so you can use PF there?

Do you genuinely not see the irony in your statement when you are traveling elsewhere to find people to fill spots in group for the content you want to do while not being interested in filling spots in groups for other players trying to get the content they want to do done? That's all PF is - a way to find people to fill groups just as Duty Finder is.

If you don't care about the population on Dynamis and you've been using data center travel since it was first implemented, why are you complaining?