Why Is Dynamis Dead

[Jojoya]

I just feel bad for any new player who makes their first character on Dynamis not knowing the situation. There are a grand total of 8 parties active on the entire datacenter as I post this, and this is peak hours for the NA region (6pm PST). This is not how FFXIV is supposed to be played.

Trying to remember the last time I ran into a new player that knew Party Finder even existed, let alone was trying to use it.

think...think...think...

Coming up blank.

Most new players won't have a need to use PF until after (or at least close to) completing MSQ and that's going to take several months for most. The players who are most inconvenienced are the veteran players used to relying on PF for end game content. Not to say that isn't also important but trying to pull "the new player experience is ruined" card here is rather silly.

In the meantime, tonight I queued for The Dark Inside on one of my alts with 3 others from my Marilith FC because we all needed it for MSQ progression (though I'm the only who had done it before). Rather than data center travel, we queued on Marilith.

Our wait time was 6 minutes, which is pretty darn good for a direct queue on a MSQ trial. I've had far longer queue times back on Crystal when doing it on my other characters that needed it for MSQ. Obviously not everyone is abandoning Dynamis to do content on the other data centers.

Anecdotal? Yes.

Did we get lucky? Maybe?

Yet it's fairly consistent with the other queue times I've experienced on Dynamis so far.

I wouldn't doubt that players are having with PvP queues, and likely Alliance raid queues as well since those tend to be unpredictable even on populated data centers. But any claims that state or imply all queues have been a problem are false.

[LianaThorne]

I just feel bad for any new player who makes their first character on Dynamis not knowing the situation. There are a grand total of 8 parties active on the entire datacenter as I post this, and this is peak hours for the NA region (6pm PST). This is not how FFXIV is supposed to be played.



While I know this isn't a big "hype period" like during a new patch or expac, this game is still on sale. Customers are still buying it, and will run into an utterly broken situation if they don't check the forums beforehand. At least World of Warcraft combines all of its dead servers together so that people can still queue for content. There's large swaths of content that's simply unplayable on this datacenter. I have yet to see any reasonable defense as to why this is a good thing.

It's worse on Materia. Feel bad for them and maybe use this same doomposting energy to help their cause.

Also, we have been hitting into the 20s now for # of PF ads on some nights. FCs are still being decorated and it will increase once they open the doors to their venues and we get new content in 6.3.

I still fail to understand why people expect new DCs that have been alive for a month to perform at the same level as the rest of the NA region that has been building up an audience for multiple years (with one in particular capitalizing on the WoW situation and adopting the majority of their streamers which in turn flooded said DC). Make it make sense.

[caffe_macchiato]

Give it a year.

As I said, FFXIV was not supposed to be a seasonal game that you only play once or twice a year. That’s what we treat it as, but the devs are still selling this game as though it’s supposed to be played in December 2022.

I still fail to understand why people expect new DCs that have been alive for a month to perform at the same level as the rest of the NA region

The game was not built to operate on a PF with only 8 parties (most being ads) and hour+ queues for content. No one is asking for Dynamis to be like Aether. If a non-existent PF and queues are optimal, why don’t we adopt this across the game?

I am not asking for Dynamis to explode in popularity. But cross-DC parties and queues are the bare minimum and would resolve the issue. It’s 2022 and there’s no (good) excuse as to why we can’t have this.

[AnnRam]

I just feel bad for any new player who makes their first character on Dynamis not knowing the situation. There are a grand total of 8 parties active on the entire datacenter as I post this, and this is peak hours for the NA region (6pm PST). This is not how FFXIV is supposed to be played.



While I know this isn't a big "hype period" like during a new patch or expac, this game is still on sale. Customers are still buying it, and will run into an utterly broken situation if they don't check the forums beforehand. At least World of Warcraft combines all of its dead servers together so that people can still queue for content. There's large swaths of content that's simply unplayable on this datacenter. I have yet to see any reasonable defense as to why this is a good thing.

Party finder for MSQ?.
90% of the game including raids,pvp etc its completely and enforced to do it alone. PF its mostly for hunts/extreme or savage.

[DamianFatale]

Give it a year. New datacenters take time to grow. Though perhaps this is also an indication that they shouldn't just make new datacenters, but might also want to consider new servers on each datacenter. I know that they are trying to offset this by having datacenter visit, but I don't think people are listening.

If they want to be on aether, I think people would often rather just be on aether, or if they want shenanigans on Crystal, then they will be on a Crystal server. I do think we needed another data center, but I think they should consider doing new servers on existing datacenters as well. Otherwise when the next expansion comes we may have the same hell all over again. :c

But again, you can't make people do what they don't wanna do. Devs have often tried and slowly failed to herd masses to relieve servers in various games. People stay where they want to stay no matter what.

[RobynDaBank]

The fruits of having on-premises environments running your game, really. They had difficulty all of last year provisioning in time for the "refugee crisis" and kept saying they're waiting on the new servers still. And when did they actually receive them and get them running? When people had gone back, and when Endwalker had reached its drought patches.

[LittleImp]

A lot of JP players are relentlessly complaining about their newest Datacenter, Meteor, which is in a very similar situation

Maybe the Devs will pay attention to that, and the benefits will trickle down to poor Dynamis.

[R041]

Party finder for MSQ?.
90% of the game including raids,pvp etc its completely and enforced to do it alone. PF its mostly for hunts/extreme or savage.

Do people on this forum have reading comprehension issues, or is it all in bad faith? The PF image was clearly given as an example in how low the pop is for the DC. Nobody in their right mind believes newbies PF all of MSQ Duties, but most of the players I see are DC traveling to get their duties within a reasonable time. Otherwise they're waiting for hours sometimes just to get to the next part of the MSQ when they're blocked by a Trial or even Dungeon. Trying to do 8m and 24m raids on Dynamis? Forget about it. lol

So the concern was in regards to new players joining Dynamis, not knowing these roadblocks playing an 'MMO' with story progression locks, where they can't even get passed them. Then if they don't speak up in Novice Network, they might be inclined to just quit.

AVERAGE WAIT TIME: MORE THAN 30M

[DixieBellOCE]

Do people on this forum have reading comprehension issues, or is it all in bad faith? The PF image was clearly given as an example in how low the pop is for the DC. Nobody in their right mind believes newbies PF all of MSQ Duties, but most of the players I see are DC traveling to get their duties within a reasonable time. Otherwise they're waiting for hours sometimes just to get to the next part of the MSQ when they're blocked by a Trial or even Dungeon. Trying to do 8m and 24m raids on Dynamis? Forget about it. lol

So the concern was in regards to new players joining Dynamis, not knowing these roadblocks playing an 'MMO' with story progression locks, where they can't even get passed them. Then if they don't speak up in Novice Network, they might be inclined to just quit.

Or, they just ask for advice in Novice Network, they might get a reply telling them its faster to DC travel.

If, and only if, the mentors would stop using the channel as a regular chat channel and use it for its intended purpose.

[R041]

Or, they just ask for advice in Novice Network, they might get a reply telling them its faster to DC travel.

I literally said that.** lol

Edited: Actually, idk why I was mean. You're mostly agreeing with me anyway.

This place got me in a mood.