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  1. #301
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    When Crystal (and then Dynamis) was created, you didn't get this with Americans. They didn't have an even split of some leaving Crystal and some joining Crystal, because it's not just about friendships for them, it's about server identity. Some players simply didn't want to be on Crystal, because Crystal had an identity they didn't like, and vice versa.
    This is bizarre phenomenon unique to the NA servers.
    Crystal wasn't created with fresh servers. Crystal was a split of Aether and Primal. And people flooded back to the DCs they had been yanked off of because they never wanted to leave in the first place. It's fine if you were fine and dandy with it on EU. We weren't on NA and they probably remembered that so that's why they made the DC with fresh servers this time. Then we have a choice of going there or not going there.

    Also, again, NA is not just US players.
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  2. #302
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Crystal wasn't created with fresh servers. Crystal was a split of Aether and Primal. And people flooded back to the DCs they had been yanked off of because they never wanted to leave in the first place. It's fine if you were fine and dandy with it on EU. We weren't on NA and they probably remembered that so that's why they made the DC with fresh servers this time. Then we have a choice of going there or not going there.

    Also, again, NA is not just US players.
    You've just proven my point.
    The move to Crystal didn't result in a two-way migration, with some moving back from Crystal and some moving TO Crystal, in order to keep friendship groups together, as would have happened anywhere else in the world.
    Instead, everyone just moved off Crystal because Crystal was deemed the unpopular datacenter.

    There shouldn't be such a thing as an unpopular server or datacenter, that's the cause of all of these congestion issues and 'dead' servers.

    And again, NA is mostly US players, and the issue here is trends which the majority are responsible for.
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  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    You've just proven my point.
    The move to Crystal didn't result in a two-way migration, with some moving back from Crystal and some moving TO Crystal, in order to keep friendship groups together, as would have happened anywhere else in the world.
    Instead, everyone just moved off Crystal because Crystal was deemed the unpopular datacenter.

    There shouldn't be such a thing as an unpopular server or datacenter, that's the cause of all of these congestion issues and 'dead' servers.

    And again, NA is mostly US players, and the issue here is trends which the majority are responsible for.
    It was less it was unpopular and more that SE just uprooted people from the DC they had always been on and people didn't like that. They went back to the DC they had personally chosen and to the connections they had with that DC. And NA players shouldn't be faulted for being unhappy to be forcibly removed from the place they had chosen to be.

    ALL the servers on Crystal are congested right now. Even Aether isn't that bad currently. Obviously it's not unpopular. It is considered the RP server so maybe that's why there isn't as much high-end focus. Aether is the raiding DC. Not sure where Primal sits. DCs, at least NA DCs, take on their own identity and ways of doing things and people drift to the ones that suit their interests the most.
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  4. #304
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    Primal is the legacy server.
    Old folks that been around forever.
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  5. #305
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    It was less it was unpopular and more that SE just uprooted people from the DC they had always been on and people didn't like that. They went back to the DC they had personally chosen and to the connections they had with that DC. And NA players shouldn't be faulted for being unhappy to be forcibly removed from the place they had chosen to be.

    ALL the servers on Crystal are congested right now. Even Aether isn't that bad currently. Obviously it's not unpopular. It is considered the RP server so maybe that's why there isn't as much high-end focus. Aether is the raiding DC. Not sure where Primal sits. DCs, at least NA DCs, take on their own identity and ways of doing things and people drift to the ones that suit their interests the most.
    You just keep on supporting my exact point.

    Crystal is the RP data center.
    Aether is the raiding datacenter.
    Primal is the 'other' datacenter.

    WHY?

    They're all just datacenters. Nobody else has this problem. Stop giving your datacenters identities and maybe you won't be so offended when you get moved to another one.
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  6. #306
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Nobody else has this problem.
    Citation needed.

    Have you seen the state of JP DCs? The ones where Mana has about 150 PFs in the evening and every other DC is lucky to go over 30? The ones where a dedicated "non-JP" DC exists? The ones where a newly reorganized DC is struggling to get off the ground and attracts much the same ire that Dynamis does?
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  7. #307
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    They're all just datacenters. Nobody else has this problem. Stop giving your datacenters identities and maybe you won't be so offended when you get moved to another one.
    JP also has this same situation, hell they even have Tonberry, where they push all the non-japanese to play.
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  8. #308
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    Khulan Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    No one wants it to be Balmung level of activity but we would like to be able to actually do content on it. As it is the PF has 0 listings for combat content on any given night, and queues for roulettes can go as high as 3-4 hours long.
    That's pretty unacceptable and it forces you to move to other DCs or you just fall behind on content constantly. I love not getting capped tomes every week and not being able to do reclears because no one plays on the new DC.
    I'm legit curious about this as the bulk of my parties on Aether will always have at least 1 Dynamis person. Is PF and DF completely empty because everyone is just going to the other datacenters for stuff or is it there's just no people on Dynamis to do the content period?
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  9. #309
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    I'm legit curious about this as the bulk of my parties on Aether will always have at least 1 Dynamis person. Is PF and DF completely empty because everyone is just going to the other datacenters for stuff or is it there's just no people on Dynamis to do the content period?
    PF is pretty much completely dead, as far as I am aware. Sometimes roulette queues can pop semi-quick, but that's not a norm. I have never once been able to get into PvP here. You can definitely cap out tomes just queueing on Dynamis though.
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  10. #310
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    I'm legit curious about this as the bulk of my parties on Aether will always have at least 1 Dynamis person. Is PF and DF completely empty because everyone is just going to the other datacenters for stuff or is it there's just no people on Dynamis to do the content period?
    There's just no one, I tried to do all my roulettes one day on dynamis and couldn't get them all done in the time I had. 30+ minute per roulette is a hell of an issue, and especially on expert roulette. There's barely any max level characters staying on the DC, most characters are alts that are around level 50-70 right now and the ones who brought their main go to other DCs to do content at about half the wait times or less. If you only have about 1-2 hours a night to play, there's a very real chance you won't be able to keep up on content or capped tomes if you don't DC travel.
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