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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    Good. I can use this to clear away people from NPCs I need to interact with. Or the MB. This emote gets better and better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
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    Hmm didnt know that. Ill have to try that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Why not try reading the comments before mine before commenting? it might help?
    People were saying drinking and doing drugs are the same because they're both drugs more or less and I said it wasn't which lead into the derailment you see now.
    Reading Context before commenting can go a long way should try it c: or does attempting to try and school someone making your brain rot or something?


    Why would you get in a car with someone that's drinking? and if someone is driving like an idiot all in the street pretty sure you wouldn't be near it and the chances of you seeing it is not that common. Not trying to lighten the fact DUI is a problem but you're just grabbing at the bottom of the barrel by using that. Because if you wanna pull up extreme examples of drinking, I can also pull up extreme examples of smoking effects but not going to do that as its a waste.
    You people keep trying to prove me wrong but just coming up with illogical comparisons.

    You can walk away from someone that's smoking but cig smoke circulates in the air and travels. It doesn't just sit in the same spot as the smoker, whats next? Not enter a house I'm suppose to be at because they smoke? Just accept smoking cigs is worst overall health from the people around you.
    Smoking is way more common to be around than some drunk dude.

    Though gonna end this topic as its already a derailment.
    Smoking is gross and I'll hate this emote. Its not gonna happen so its w/e really, just gonna let this topic die just as the one asking to be strippers did.
    I'm pretty sure you misread what I was saying. I wasn't talking about driving with a Drunk Driver, I meant sharing the road with one. Also fun fact, car exhaust is more harmful to breath in than cigarette smoke, it also lingers in the air much longer, but no one talks about the inherent dangers of breathing in vehicle exhaust. In fact, lets do a quick side by side. A person sits in a Garage filled with Cigarette Smoke for hours, doesn't die, sure they have an extreme headache and their eyes will hurt but they are alive... A person sits in a Garage and turns on the car and sits there for hours, dies.

    Also, extreme examples of smoking would all be self inflicted. No one has ever, to my knowledge, had to get a hole cut into their throat to breath from second hand smoke. No one has ever died of lung failure SOLELY based on second hand smoke. However, People have died from "second hand drinking".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Personally, I am not a fan.... I do think that it could be "glamorizing" it for younger players. I'm not trying to judge, I was a smoker for many years.
    SE might even get into legal trouble as a 'cartoon' glamorizing smoking if they put such an emote in.
    It would essentially be a 'catgirl' version of a Joe Camel advertisement.

    That's litigation big enough to drive SE out of business and maybe even put some of their managers at risk of jail time in some countries...

    I'd steer very clear of doing such an emote.

    I'm actually curious about whether or not a certain already existing NPC could have put them at risk of this. Joe Camel basically was a lightning rod for legal action against big tobacco, and inspired all kinds of legislation against representations of smoking in products that could even be hinted as possibly being of interest to minors.

    This is probably a hornet's nest we don't want to kick...
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    Last edited by Makeda; 03-14-2020 at 03:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    SE might even get into legal trouble as a 'cartoon' glamorizing smoking if they put such an emote in.
    It would essentially be a 'catgirl' version of a Joe Camel advertisement.

    That's litigation big enough to drive SE out of business and maybe even put some of their managers at risk of jail time in some countries...

    I'd steer very clear of doing such an emote.

    I'm actually curious about whether or not a certain already existing NPC could have put them at risk of this. Joe Camel basically was a lightning rod for legal action against big tobacco, and inspired all kinds of legislation against representations of smoking in products that could even be hinted as possibly being of interest to minors.

    This is probably a hornet's nest we don't want to kick...
    I agree they aren't likely to ever add this. That said, they're probably safe with what they've done with npcs, their legal teams are probably on the ball with that. They've cited similar concerns with poker but they were able to clear mahjong. Big difference between an npc doing it and giving characters free reign to do something though, so while they can add occasional npcs like Yotsuyu I don't expect to ever see it playable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I agree they aren't likely to ever add this. That said, they're probably safe with what they've done with npcs, their legal teams are probably on the ball with that.
    I hope so...

    But I also imagine some State-DA looking to run for office somewhere getting it into their head to go after video games... and among all the things they'd look at over GTA and other games being so violent... we don't have specific laws for that, shockingly enough to those who have concerns over it... but promoting smoking to kids - zap... there's a job promotion waiting to happen for the DA that can run with it...

    These things don't get decided based on what's the most solid case, good public safety, or good law... they get decided over what newspaper headline will get a DA promoted or elected...

    As long as it's just one former villain NPC yeah that's in the past and minor... but put that on the 'main hero' and you've got your CNN Interview talking point ready-set-go...
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    Last edited by Makeda; 03-14-2020 at 03:47 AM.
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    not bothered to read all those pages, BUT, we already have an housing item thats an ashtray with a lit sigar in it, so yeah, i dont see the problem with this emote, just put the game on 18+ already, and the problem is gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metsonm View Post
    It's why they were allowed to have Raubahn's arm get cut off, but weren't allowed to cut off the Rathalos tail.
    When was the last time you have done Rathalos? Because you can clearly cut off it's tail and you can see the piece of its tail on the ground.
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    Not a fan of smoking but it would be nice if they release it.
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