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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Personally, I am not a fan.... I do think that it could be "glamorizing" it for younger players. I'm not trying to judge, I was a smoker for many years.
    SE might even get into legal trouble as a 'cartoon' glamorizing smoking if they put such an emote in.
    It would essentially be a 'catgirl' version of a Joe Camel advertisement.

    That's litigation big enough to drive SE out of business and maybe even put some of their managers at risk of jail time in some countries...

    I'd steer very clear of doing such an emote.

    I'm actually curious about whether or not a certain already existing NPC could have put them at risk of this. Joe Camel basically was a lightning rod for legal action against big tobacco, and inspired all kinds of legislation against representations of smoking in products that could even be hinted as possibly being of interest to minors.

    This is probably a hornet's nest we don't want to kick...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    SE might even get into legal trouble as a 'cartoon' glamorizing smoking if they put such an emote in.
    It would essentially be a 'catgirl' version of a Joe Camel advertisement.

    That's litigation big enough to drive SE out of business and maybe even put some of their managers at risk of jail time in some countries...

    I'd steer very clear of doing such an emote.

    I'm actually curious about whether or not a certain already existing NPC could have put them at risk of this. Joe Camel basically was a lightning rod for legal action against big tobacco, and inspired all kinds of legislation against representations of smoking in products that could even be hinted as possibly being of interest to minors.

    This is probably a hornet's nest we don't want to kick...
    I agree they aren't likely to ever add this. That said, they're probably safe with what they've done with npcs, their legal teams are probably on the ball with that. They've cited similar concerns with poker but they were able to clear mahjong. Big difference between an npc doing it and giving characters free reign to do something though, so while they can add occasional npcs like Yotsuyu I don't expect to ever see it playable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I agree they aren't likely to ever add this. That said, they're probably safe with what they've done with npcs, their legal teams are probably on the ball with that.
    I hope so...

    But I also imagine some State-DA looking to run for office somewhere getting it into their head to go after video games... and among all the things they'd look at over GTA and other games being so violent... we don't have specific laws for that, shockingly enough to those who have concerns over it... but promoting smoking to kids - zap... there's a job promotion waiting to happen for the DA that can run with it...

    These things don't get decided based on what's the most solid case, good public safety, or good law... they get decided over what newspaper headline will get a DA promoted or elected...

    As long as it's just one former villain NPC yeah that's in the past and minor... but put that on the 'main hero' and you've got your CNN Interview talking point ready-set-go...
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