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Thread: Smoking emote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    The insinuation of the those particular acts are far worse than actually seeing someone smoking.
    not to mention that most of those aren't even insinuated, they're actually acted out in game lol
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    Hate smoking in RL, but I support adding smoke emote in game. It's particularly good for RP reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    It's particularly good for RP reason.
    The problem here is that its currently a widely undesired action because of the health and addiction downsides. In such way RP shouldnt promote that behaviour either. If it is promoted ingame, then it might still cause people to start smoking 'because its cool'. Dont underestimate the influence of this.

    In an 18+ game, i wouldnt care as much, but in this case the game is suitable for lower age, and promoted as such. Thats why im still against.

    Sure, if a character was already smoking, they can at least preserve that, because having them smoking all of a sudden often feels strange.

    Although i have to say metal gear solid series did an excelent job at that part (they were very lighthearted about it the entire time, but at the same time the entire story has a very big emphasis on its downsides, up to a state that in mgs4 it realy shows the health problems, which along with other causes make it even more amplified). But at the same time, they remained accurate (even in mgs5, although that story is incomplete). But i would say this is one of the very rare cases where the way they did this just worked very well. In too many cases devs just make the character stop out of nothing (which isnt realistic and would imply its not addictive even). But tahts why its good that devs at least arent making new characters heavy smokers.
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    SE: Smoking bad, m'kay?
    Also SE: *puts in beer steins and a /toast emote*

    Like I said, it's the little things that make me laugh, lol.
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    Kupo <3 I would love to toke on some magical kupo herb

    Kupo <3 if somebody is getting upset over an emote like smoking or drinking you should have another discussion with yourself kupo <3

    World is not all snowflakes and rainbows, people work they need some escape and dopamine. Let them have fun kupo <3
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    Kupo!

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    Sounds cool. If you hate the health implications, don't use it. It's 2022; nobody who smokes is laboring under the belief that it's good for them.
    The emote needs to LOOP though. We have so many emotes in this game that should loop but don't. Like /read for example. Why do I read for 5 seconds and then immediately put the book away? It should loop. Imagine if we get like, a pipe smoking emote similar to Yotsuyu's movements, but you only smoke for 4 seconds and then you put it away. It'd be so bad lmao.
    Anyway, I'm sure we'll get it soon. Maybe SE will partner with Marlboro for a Malboro themed cigarette adventure, and if you purchase a pack and send in the receipt you'll get a /smoke emote!
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    Smoking emote please, if you are worried about the health impacts just say it is not tobacco but something only found in FFXIV that has no negatively impacts in the flavor text.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    its a FANTASY world, with magic that cures everything, if you get something from smoking in game, just esuna it, job done
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    Support for the bard performance mode requests:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/464954-What-improvements-would-you-like-to-see-with-the-bard-performance-mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Maybe SE will partner with Marlboro for a Malboro themed cigarette adventure, and if you purchase a pack and send in the receipt you'll get a /smoke emote!
    Never gonna happen. The moment any tabaco company advertises in a game like this, they and SE will be sued to such insane state it wont be profitable. If smoking happens no company is allowed to be attached to it. Smoking advertisements are already illegal acros many platforms in many countries.

    Coupled sales on that (even if internationaly) also are not allowed. Your package bought in country X, must then not be accepted when you are in country Y. Not just that, other players using the emotes in this case ALSO are then not allowed to have that rendered, because the coupled sale is still an advertisement mechanic. Even if there is no way for you to obtain it, it can still promote vpn usage to obtain the emote, and using that method get people to buy a pack.

    The laws against advertising for any tabaco company are extremely strict, and in most cases go cross border. For example any USA show that also advertises towards EU users, without actively being shown in the EU, will still result in fines/bans for the company advertising. And it goes that far that it even applies the the parent company of those companies.

    You can be sure that SE doesnt want to get into this mess. So the only real option would be having it obtainable though f2p and brandless. And potentialy still get fined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Personally, I am not a fan.... others might disagree, but it is a very unhealthy habit that I consider disgusting.... and while this is not a real world, I do think that it could be "glamorizing" it for younger players. I'm not trying to judge, I was a smoker for many years.
    We already have a toast emote with a keg of beef. We have cigars as housing items already same for alcohol sets. No offense but this makes little sense.

    Also, yes this isn't the real world. If the consideration is young people we've killed thousands on thousands of people with little remorse in the game already. I'm sure a cig emote is the least of worries there.
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