Smoking emote.

[OperaMorgana]

its a FANTASY world, with magic that cures everything, if you get something from smoking in game, just esuna it, job done

[IkaraGreydancer]

Personally, I am not a fan.... others might disagree, but it is a very unhealthy habit that I consider disgusting.... and while this is not a real world, I do think that it could be "glamorizing" it for younger players. I'm not trying to judge, I was a smoker for many years.

We already have a toast emote with a keg of beef. We have cigars as housing items already same for alcohol sets. No offense but this makes little sense.

Also, yes this isn't the real world. If the consideration is young people we've killed thousands on thousands of people with little remorse in the game already. I'm sure a cig emote is the least of worries there.

[Midareyukki]

Would anyone be interested in a smoking emote or am I in the minority when it comes wanting a smoking emote.

I want to say "no" because of rating systems, sensibilities, health hazards and cultural outlook on smoking or displays of smoking as a neutral/benevolent action...

But god yes, I want Highlanders and Roegadyn with a cigar. That'd just look hot.

Edit: OR A PIPE

[Lalahee]

I want to say "no" because of rating systems, sensibilities, health hazards and cultural outlook on smoking or displays of smoking as a neutral/benevolent action...

But god yes, I want Highlanders and Roegadyn with a cigar. That'd just look hot.

Edit: OR A PIPE

Don't forget the Elezen with a Yotsuyu-styled pipe!

[Pratini]

I don't think thats a good idea to be really honest.

[Bobby66]

I don't think thats a good idea to be really honest.

Why if I may ask? That aside, do people really feel an emote would glamorize the action? Does the drinking emote glamorize drinking? Sure you can say maybe they are not drinking booze, we can say they are not smoking a harmful substance. This seems like a weird hill for people to die on just because they dislike like it IRL. This game is not IRL.

[Midareyukki]

Why if I may ask? That aside, do people really feel an emote would glamorize the action? Does the drinking emote glamorize drinking? Sure you can say maybe they are not drinking booze, we can say they are not smoking a harmful substance. This seems like a weird hill for people to die on just because they dislike like it IRL. This game is not IRL.

It's not about what we think. It's about people who work at ratings think. And they've increased ratings for far less. If a character isn't portrayed as smoking in a negative way (by them being a villain), or if the act of smoking isn't explicitly viewed as bad (like having your character cough and cartoonishly throw it away), it can be perceived as glamourized.

For further examples, check out the Hays code. It's not the same, but it's similar in its execution: if the action exists, it must be portrayed as either negative or have connotations around it that show it's an immoral act, such as being associated to immoral characters.

[Bobby66]

It's not about what we think. It's about people who work at ratings think. And they've increased ratings for far less. If a character isn't portrayed as smoking in a negative way (by them being a villain), or if the act of smoking isn't explicitly viewed as bad (like having your character cough and cartoonishly throw it away), it can be perceived as glamourized.

For further examples, check out the Hays code. It's not the same, but it's similar in its execution: if the action exists, it must be portrayed as either negative or have connotations around it that show it's an immoral act, such as being associated to immoral characters.

Well sure we have very little say, it is still interesting to get the reasoning from players that are against the suggestion. Even if ratings were an issue it could be a bubble pipe, yet throughout the thread it appears even that portrayal could be seen as a glamourization of smoking.

Why is that the case for smoking and not drinking? Both could be argued as immoral acts and both.

Sure we will never get the answer.

[Midareyukki]

Well sure we have very little say, it is still interesting to get the reasoning from players that are against the suggestion. Even if ratings were an issue it could be a bubble pipe, yet throughout the thread it appears even that portrayal could be seen as a glamourization of smoking.

Thing is why is that the case for smoking and not drinking? Both could be argued as immoral acts and both.

Could also be sensibilities. Plenty of people frown upon tobacco and drinking included due to their impacts on peoples' healths. Now, while you can argue there can be benefits to alcohol (as there are in red wine, for example), those benefits only exist with moderation. Smoking has no benefit that exists even with moderation.

And plenty of people likely know someone who suffered or suffers from smoking-induced illnesses. Which contributes to the unpopularity.

That and the smoke kind of stinks x_x I just like it for the *aesthetic~*, but even I acknowledge an aesthetic can easily lead to harm.

[Bobby66]

Does not make much sense to me, but I can see where due to the sensitive nature may fuel a higher degree of ire and less tolerance.

Many seem to be in favor of a bubble pipe option so we can hope one day they add something akin to that as a gag type emote.

Though some appear to even be against that degree if portrayal.

I did read a recent study that does suggest that even moderate consumption of alcohol the risks may out weigh the benefits. Forgot the details of the study if I find it I will post it. Not sure what was the avg ABV consumed during the study.