Second Wind is a terrible ability and either needs redesigned or outright removed.

[Raven2014]

Never said I didn't use it, just that it's heal to CD ratio is ridiculously small.

It heal enough to keep you from dying when the next hit will barely kill you. It's not something to top you off, not something that allows your healer to ignore you, or something that let you ignore where the healer is (range DPS staying in lala land) , or heal enough to keep you alive when half of your party forgot their mit.

[hynaku]

Its worthless. I can't hardly even think of a time I really even needed to use it. I use bloodbath way more and it has only a 90 second cd compared to 120 second cd for Second wind. Only change I could see is making it a 60 second cd. Super potions heal for about the same amount as second wind does.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I think it's an okay ability. I just wish it heals flatly based on hp% rather than what we have right now. It heals good amount on lower level but loses effectiveness as we level up. Somewhere from 10% - 20% would probably suffice.

[Toutatis]

I think it works as intended. An instant but small amount of healing meant to save you when there is nothing else. It’s an emergency backup and it is not meant to replace healers. It saved me quite a few times when I knew my health wouldn’t be quite high enough to survive the next attack while waiting for real healing. Bloodbath doesn’t heal you instantly and it’s useless if you have to get away from the boss.

[VictorTheed]

I wouldn't mind Second Wind getting a healing potency buff or even a shield buff with it.

I also wouldn't mind ranged DPS getting blood bath, even a version for magical DPS.

[dspguy]

Saying Second Wind is just fine when it crits just screams "Second Wind is not fine at all." So, 80% of the time it isn't very good and the other 20% it is great. This is why tanks don't have mitigation abilities that "sometimes work." Let's say that Sheltron can block 20% but sometimes blocks 0%. Is it even worth using?

[Deceptus]

Bloodbath doesn’t heal you instantly and it’s useless if you have to get away from the boss.

Which in today's game is very rare with the larger boss target markers

[IkaraGreydancer]

Saying Second Wind is just fine when it crits just screams "Second Wind is not fine at all." So, 80% of the time it isn't very good and the other 20% it is great. This is why tanks don't have mitigation abilities that "sometimes work." Let's say that Sheltron can block 20% but sometimes blocks 0%. Is it even worth using?

Then I'll say this. I've used the move for years and have never once felt it didn't heal enough. It does what it's meant to do. The question of worth is pointless because that's subjective.

Also what kind of comparison is that? When tf have you ever seen a Second Wind heal for 0%? It always works. That's is the fact of the matter

[Ransu]

Saying Second Wind is just fine when it crits just screams "Second Wind is not fine at all." So, 80% of the time it isn't very good and the other 20% it is great. This is why tanks don't have mitigation abilities that "sometimes work." Let's say that Sheltron can block 20% but sometimes blocks 0%. Is it even worth using?

Its fine when it doesn't crit. It serves exactly the purpose it needs to serve which is a small heal that would save you from what otherwise would probably be death from a raid wide. People need to get over the idea that its supposed to be this big chunk heal when that's not its purpose. It would be broken if it healed for more than it already does.

[Tlachtga]

Its fine when it doesn't crit. It serves exactly the purpose it needs to serve which is a small heal that would save you from what otherwise would probably be death from a raid wide. People need to get over the idea that its supposed to be this big chunk heal when that's not its purpose. It would be broken if it healed for more than it already does.

they could double the potency of Second Wind and make it auto crit heal, and it'll still be trash.

and if Second Wind healing more is broken, i guess since all melee get Bloodbath, they're broken now? that'll heal for more than SW could hope too, and its on a shorter cd too.

not even mentioning the third personal cd all melees except DRG get (Life Surge heals, but you're not using it for that) that give shields/healing/mitigation, the shields SMN/BLM get, and Curing Waltz and Improvisation on DNC.

BRD and MCH have suffered enough this expac and the last. surely they can at least get some extra survivability for these niche situations where the supports have dropped the ball. literally all the other dps have them.