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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    ^^ This person gets it. Melee have had multiple self heals for years and MCH/BRD have had a single sh!tty one that heals, on average, for 7% max health every 2 minutes.
    SW is actually closer to 14%. It's a 500 potency heal, so it isn't anything to scoff at. I know the 500 pot is not the same as a healer's 500 pot, but it's enough of a restore to get your HP to a more comfortable state. Even more so if it crits. Also, the "Well, melees get to have it" approach isn't a very good angle. Should physical ranged get Feint as well?

    Also don't forget about super potions. The HQs can be used nearly once per minute, and even though it is a fixed 3600 HP, you can combine it with SW for an even bigger boost to your HP restore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    SW is actually closer to 14%. It's a 500 potency heal, so it isn't anything to scoff at. I know the 500 pot is not the same as a healer's 500 pot, but it's enough of a restore to get your HP to a more comfortable state. Even more so if it crits. Also, the "Well, melees get to have it" approach isn't a very good angle. Should physical ranged get Feint as well?

    Also don't forget about super potions. The HQs can be used nearly once per minute, and even though it is a fixed 3600 HP, you can combine it with SW for an even bigger boost to your HP restore.
    Feints are for melee DPS, physical ranged gets partywide -10% mitigation.

    They are correct about Phys Ranged having nothing else beside SW to heal themselves. The furthest they can go about recuperating loss health for BRD is to Minne themselves before SW, and DNC to abuse their Improv & stack their Curing Waltz with their partner. MCH have… nothing else(?). They would be able to kite comfortably if only bosses hitboxes aren’t so humongous lately lol.

    I wish using Super Potions won’t lock you out of tinctures though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Feints are for melee DPS, physical ranged gets partywide -10% mitigation.
    I'm not quite sure why you're pointing this out. The point behind my comment about the melees also having SW along with any other self-sustain tools they have is not a valid argument to let Physical ranged classes have access to more self-sustain abilities. Melees having more self-sustain is an advantage they have, and it should be ok for certain roles to have advantages over others. Regardless of larger hit boxes to assist the melees, they still have positionals and forced downtime to worry about.

    They are correct about Phys Ranged having nothing else beside SW to heal themselves. The furthest they can go about recuperating loss health for BRD is to Minne themselves before SW, and DNC to abuse their Improv & stack their Curing Waltz with their partner. MCH have… nothing else(?). They would be able to kite comfortably if only bosses hitboxes aren’t so humongous lately lol.
    I never argued that she was wrong. I just corrected the amount SW typically restores and also mentioned another option with Super Potions to help. DNC is the exception, but she might not like that job. As for Tinctures, if you're in a clear/farm party, then you shouldn't be needing the potions, or SW all that much anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I'm not quite sure why you're pointing this out[...]
    Forgive me @_@ for whatever reason I misinterpret your comment as "ranged physical have feint too" at the time I wrote that. The wonders of bedtime discussion...

    Otherwise, I agree with your points.
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