Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV

[Rolder50]

Yes we have party finder, but xiv 2.0 and on was designed around more than just that. In world of Warcraft, vanilla especially, it was all about exploring the world, partying with random players, adding them to your friends list. Dungeon needs were basically built around chat and meeting to get it done. They eventually implemented meeting stones which was nice.

The moment party finder was implemented, there was no need to socialize and communicate for dungeons in WoW.

I'm not so sure. WotLK had the dungeon finder and yet it was the most popular that WoW has ever been.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

No, GW2's design is different. Fights can be harder or easier, depending on how they're made. Much like how you have raids here in FF14 that can be easier or harder than A12S despite being more recent than it.

The design with GW2's fights come with stuff like using class gimmicks, buffs/debuffs and survivability. FF14's all about numbers, rotation and shielding. GW2 has a bit more to their classes than that, and some fights rely on it. Imagine En Avant actually being a part of your core gameplay. That's how classes in GW2 are designed, along with their usual other mechanics that we're used to. Looking at you, Mesmer.

Im hoping Black Friday will be favorable this year, Ive been wanting to get a decent Gaming PC so I could play games like GW2
It always interested me, but my current PC cant play it.

[MonsutaMan]

Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV



Why announce that? I don't think small time Youtubers are going to move the needle. He does not even have 100,000 people to even give a damn; let alone make a change in an mmo. This isn't akin to that WoW streamer basically making XIV relevant.

He is probably playing right now lol. Who is to know, if these people who quit are not on an alt or something.

If he is quitting for his family, can't knock...as a man.

[DPZ2]

There is times I have thought of quitting FFXIV myself. I feel like content has been lackluster for a while and the things people want changed just doesn't happen. If the rate the game has been going will this really last 10 more years? IDK I hope it does but also the game itself has been feeling stagnant.

Which content excites you? Which content is "so-so"? Has there really been that much of a change over the last 10 years or are you leaning heavily on nostalgia, remembering when you started out?

The game could easily last for another 10 years. The number of new players hasn't dropped. The amount of social media interest is still high. Heck, even those MMOs who stopped providing updates have survived for years due to the determination of their fans.

The shape of MMORPGs has changed, certainly. And yet. There must be something that keeps you around. Identify it. Analyze its worth. And make a choice, either to continue playing or not.

As for "constructive criticism" ... much of what passes for criticism on these forums is neither constructive nor actual criticism. It is pining for features from other games that the poster no longer plays. It is literary critique for a medium that is not purported to be a literary masterpiece. It is a cry of dissatisfaction that there aren't enough dopamine kicks (rewards) to make it worth someone's while to participate in content for more than the first rush provided.

It is decrying changes to a job well loved for 8-10 years, despite indifference when it was someone else's job that got changed up.

The term "toxic" is bandied about too often. There is a difference between a "toxic relationship" and "toxic positivity". It is an easy way to label opinions with which we disagree as "other", losing the true meaning of the word, which I consider to be horrific.

[DPZ2]

Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV



Why announce that? I don't think small time Youtubers are going to move the needle. He does not even have 100,000 people to even give a damn; let alone make a change in an mmo. This isn't akin to that WoW streamer basically making XIV relevant.

My take on his video:

Brian is moving on. He considers his time with his relatively young family as important; he wants to put more time into his work as a comedian. He will no longer have to expend the time and effort as a YouTube content creator who talked a lot about Final Fantasy XIV. He isn't trying to change people's minds about the game. His video was his explanation about why you'll stop seeing FFXIV content.

It's a decent thing to do when you've established a following, no matter how big or how small.

[Ravor]

My opinion on this is as simple as, he has less time to play games and he choose other game, i think he is simply burnt out on FFXIV and want to play something newer, thats all there is to it

[Jojoya]

Reality is harsh. If someone who actually contributes to the community (like MTQ) leaves and has something to say, I might take notice. Glancing at some commentary on this Brian person, he just sounds like another attention whore.

He did contribute to the community. His guides to playing FFXIV with a controller are considered to be very well done and popular FFXIV content creators frequently refer their viewers to those guides when asked about playing with a controller.

In the end he's another content creator like any other. Some are going to like the style, others aren't. Some will agree with his opinions, others won't.

I was one who didn't like the Work to Game style (it wasn't just him, he has a partner for Work to Game) but I still see it as a loss to the community.

[Raven2014]

questions:

- Who is this guy?
- Why should I care he's leaving? (Seriously, the way the OP is worded I thought the dude is someone from the dev team).

Frankly it feels it's not even that it's about the person in question, but rather the OP just piggy back something random for the usual rant.

Only focusing on the positives and ignoring the negatives is the equivalent of burying your head in the sand. If you want to do that, more power to you. I'm gonna choose to do the opposite though and focus on both, thanks.

What's wrong with focusing on the positive.

Here is the thing I feel a lot of people miss: it's a game.

If it's a life choice, job relevant, relationship matter then sure, it's wise to keep a balance and objective PoV. But this is entertainment, something I waste time and resource on to "entertain" me. I ain't playing this game to make myself a better person or for personal enlighten. It's the same thing for a lot of thing. I listen to whatever music that excite me, I don't care if it's just some mindless synth junk despite some people think I need to refine my taste to enjoy "higher form of art". When I read things, I just read whatever interested me and make me laugh. Some people point out I should treat reading as "brain food" and I'm just like ... no. I think a lot of people just have these "grandstanding" opinion about things but you know ... I just shrug and I think it ain't worth my time.



Another thing ... have people like you ever consider if someone like don't complain alot, it's not really because we only focus on the good thing, and actually because we just don't have a lot of things to complain about? Like, seriously, even if I have only HALF of the complains that are on displayed and beaten to death on this forum, you still wouldn't see me complain about it, and do you know why?

Because I have head in the sand? No.But simply because at that point I would have been long gone to another game. Like ... why the hell should I spend time and resource to focus, find and then complain about the thing that supposed to entertain me?

That's madness.

[Midareyukki]

Another thing ... have people like you ever consider if someone like don't complain alot, it's not really because we only focus on the good thing, and actually because we just don't have a lot of things to complain about? Like, seriously, even if I have only HALF of the complains that are on displayed and beaten to death on this forum, you still wouldn't see me complain about it, and do you know why?

Because I have head in the sand? No.But simply because at that point I would have been long gone to another game. Like ... why the hell should I spend time and resource to focus, find and then complain about the thing that supposed to entertain me?

That's madness.

That's great for you. Honestly. It really is. Unfortunately no, it isn't madness. We're paying for something meant to entertain us monthly. And while it does, when we provide feedback and they refuse to listen, then yeah, what you get are people complaining. If you aren't the kind to have your head buried in the sand and are enjoying the game, that's great. Keep enjoying the game. But rather than just saying that and stopping there, try to understand that the game has been declining for quite a lot of people in these forums. Some complaints in the forums are kind of obviously bad takes, others are just people trolling around. But some stuff are entirely valid and either weren't addressed at all by the devs, or they were but didn't fix the issue.

It's great that you're enjoying the game. But allow others to enjoy it as well. Not everything that glitters is gold. And your enjoyment of the game likely won't be affected by the changes that people have asked. You've been on these forums since 2014, so you know a lot of stuff that's good that's in the game, stuff you likely enjoy, came because fans asked for it. So odds are you'd still be enjoying the game if any of the stuff that people complain about get addressed. As you have for nearly 10 years.

Also, I can't help but notice you're a Hyur. I'm sorry but I don't see much reason for you to come and complain about stuff happening to your race. You aren't playing anything, at least at face value, that warrants any complaint. But players of other races feel like there are flaws that they'd like to see adjusted. Among many other things about the game, even stuff unrelated to races. This was just an example.

Another thing that people tend to forget is the fact that there's been a lot of points that have drawn intense criticism in such a short timeframe this expansion. People have always complained. And these forums never had the best reputation. But the reason why you're seeing such a surge in discontentment, even if it's just here, is because of that. And as I've said many times, the devs have said before that THIS is the place they'll search for feedback on their game, so odds are you'll see a lot more complaining here than anywhere else.

Otherwise? Yeah. We still play the game, we still pay for it, we still enjoy it. Same as you. It's just that some of our experiences haven't been the best, and we'd like them addressed. Some are just pure quality of life, some are a bit more complex like Square improving on their raiding scene which is a massive aspect of the game... and some are just pure genuine player experience. And we wouldn't want to leave the game that we care about a lot, that we invested a lot of time in. That we'd like to continue doing so because we think the rest that's positive makes it all well worth continuing. Yet the recent drop in quality and communication has been rather shocking to say the least, and that implies the devs need a bit of a voice telling them not to fall complacent. And when the lead producer's initial response to us criticizing notoriously and blatantly poor decisions is "I wasn't expecting such a reaction", then that implies a disconnect that needs to be bridged.

So, yes, I at least consider that if you don't complain and show that you enjoy the game, then it's because you enjoy the game and don't find any reason to complain. But others do. What I personally wouldn't be fine with would be if you suddenly turned around and talked crap about people who did complain. Perhaps have you considered that some of the people who complain do understand the game has its praises but just simply won't sing them every time just to insert a complaint? Some people are just more direct and to the point. And sometimes, the negativity comes at a reaction to something the devs did. What's important is to be cool about it.

[Iscah]

Yeah but at least previous patches actually had more content and the focus of said content wasnt such engaging features such as:
-Right Click Island!
-Run this same dungeon 12 times
-Sorry no Exploration Zone pls understand

The "exploration zones" were at least as tedious and grindy as the current expansion's content, with a whole lot of trekking back and forth across dull scenery thrown in, and I am not sad to see them go.

If you levelled twice as fast and saw everything once or twice instead of ten times, I would have rated it higher, but everything just wore out its welcome long before you were done with it.