Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV

[LianaThorne]

Every MMO has problems and unless you focus on the positives and enjoy those you'll never be happy in them. If toxic positivity exists as you claim, then toxic negativity definitely does on this forum.

There is definitely not a lack of content but it might be content that you aren't interested in or that you only decide to do once because you don't care about the rewards.

Only focusing on the positives and ignoring the negatives is the equivalent of burying your head in the sand. If you want to do that, more power to you. I'm gonna choose to do the opposite though and focus on both, thanks.

[Raven2014]

questions:

- Who is this guy?
- Why should I care he's leaving? (Seriously, the way the OP is worded I thought the dude is someone from the dev team).

Frankly it feels it's not even that it's about the person in question, but rather the OP just piggy back something random for the usual rant.

Only focusing on the positives and ignoring the negatives is the equivalent of burying your head in the sand. If you want to do that, more power to you. I'm gonna choose to do the opposite though and focus on both, thanks.

What's wrong with focusing on the positive.

Here is the thing I feel a lot of people miss: it's a game.

If it's a life choice, job relevant, relationship matter then sure, it's wise to keep a balance and objective PoV. But this is entertainment, something I waste time and resource on to "entertain" me. I ain't playing this game to make myself a better person or for personal enlighten. It's the same thing for a lot of thing. I listen to whatever music that excite me, I don't care if it's just some mindless synth junk despite some people think I need to refine my taste to enjoy "higher form of art". When I read things, I just read whatever interested me and make me laugh. Some people point out I should treat reading as "brain food" and I'm just like ... no. I think a lot of people just have these "grandstanding" opinion about things but you know ... I just shrug and I think it ain't worth my time.



Another thing ... have people like you ever consider if someone like don't complain alot, it's not really because we only focus on the good thing, and actually because we just don't have a lot of things to complain about? Like, seriously, even if I have only HALF of the complains that are on displayed and beaten to death on this forum, you still wouldn't see me complain about it, and do you know why?

Because I have head in the sand? No.But simply because at that point I would have been long gone to another game. Like ... why the hell should I spend time and resource to focus, find and then complain about the thing that supposed to entertain me?

That's madness.

[Midareyukki]

Another thing ... have people like you ever consider if someone like don't complain alot, it's not really because we only focus on the good thing, and actually because we just don't have a lot of things to complain about? Like, seriously, even if I have only HALF of the complains that are on displayed and beaten to death on this forum, you still wouldn't see me complain about it, and do you know why?

Because I have head in the sand? No.But simply because at that point I would have been long gone to another game. Like ... why the hell should I spend time and resource to focus, find and then complain about the thing that supposed to entertain me?

That's madness.

That's great for you. Honestly. It really is. Unfortunately no, it isn't madness. We're paying for something meant to entertain us monthly. And while it does, when we provide feedback and they refuse to listen, then yeah, what you get are people complaining. If you aren't the kind to have your head buried in the sand and are enjoying the game, that's great. Keep enjoying the game. But rather than just saying that and stopping there, try to understand that the game has been declining for quite a lot of people in these forums. Some complaints in the forums are kind of obviously bad takes, others are just people trolling around. But some stuff are entirely valid and either weren't addressed at all by the devs, or they were but didn't fix the issue.

It's great that you're enjoying the game. But allow others to enjoy it as well. Not everything that glitters is gold. And your enjoyment of the game likely won't be affected by the changes that people have asked. You've been on these forums since 2014, so you know a lot of stuff that's good that's in the game, stuff you likely enjoy, came because fans asked for it. So odds are you'd still be enjoying the game if any of the stuff that people complain about get addressed. As you have for nearly 10 years.

Also, I can't help but notice you're a Hyur. I'm sorry but I don't see much reason for you to come and complain about stuff happening to your race. You aren't playing anything, at least at face value, that warrants any complaint. But players of other races feel like there are flaws that they'd like to see adjusted. Among many other things about the game, even stuff unrelated to races. This was just an example.

Another thing that people tend to forget is the fact that there's been a lot of points that have drawn intense criticism in such a short timeframe this expansion. People have always complained. And these forums never had the best reputation. But the reason why you're seeing such a surge in discontentment, even if it's just here, is because of that. And as I've said many times, the devs have said before that THIS is the place they'll search for feedback on their game, so odds are you'll see a lot more complaining here than anywhere else.

Otherwise? Yeah. We still play the game, we still pay for it, we still enjoy it. Same as you. It's just that some of our experiences haven't been the best, and we'd like them addressed. Some are just pure quality of life, some are a bit more complex like Square improving on their raiding scene which is a massive aspect of the game... and some are just pure genuine player experience. And we wouldn't want to leave the game that we care about a lot, that we invested a lot of time in. That we'd like to continue doing so because we think the rest that's positive makes it all well worth continuing. Yet the recent drop in quality and communication has been rather shocking to say the least, and that implies the devs need a bit of a voice telling them not to fall complacent. And when the lead producer's initial response to us criticizing notoriously and blatantly poor decisions is "I wasn't expecting such a reaction", then that implies a disconnect that needs to be bridged.

So, yes, I at least consider that if you don't complain and show that you enjoy the game, then it's because you enjoy the game and don't find any reason to complain. But others do. What I personally wouldn't be fine with would be if you suddenly turned around and talked crap about people who did complain. Perhaps have you considered that some of the people who complain do understand the game has its praises but just simply won't sing them every time just to insert a complaint? Some people are just more direct and to the point. And sometimes, the negativity comes at a reaction to something the devs did. What's important is to be cool about it.

[Raven2014]

But allow others to enjoy it as well.

As far as I know, I'm not the one stopping you.

Also, I can't help but notice you're a Hyur.

Nope. Notice how he's a level 50? "cause I haven't played for almost 8 years. I like my beast girls

What I personally wouldn't be fine with would be if you suddenly turned around and talked crap about people who did complain.

Congratulation, now you understand how people like me feel when we're told we have our head in the sand or whiteknighting for liking the game. Frankly at this point it's already a tug a war thing so at least let not try to draw the victim card shall we?

[Midareyukki]

As far as I know, I'm not the one stopping you.

You did question why people were complaining, which is why I said that. The way you phrased it was that because you yourself didn't feel like you had any reason to complain, the people who did either canned it or left the game. To me it just felt like you weren't understanding why people were complaining to begin with, or at least devalue why it was happening.

Nope. Notice how he's a level 50? "cause I haven't played for almost 8 years. I like my beast girls

Yee I figured as much. Besides, I'm not accusing you or anything. I just pointed out, based on your profile image, that you were playing a Hyur, easily the one race with the least amount of "complaints".

Overall tho, not every feedback that's negative is a complaint. Sometimes it's a simple "don't do this" or "take another route".

Congratulation, now you understand how people like me feel when we're told we have our head in the sand or whiteknighting for liking the game. Frankly at this point it's already a tug a war thing so at least let not try to draw the victim card shall we?

What victim card? :P

And am I correct in assuming that you're saying "burying your head in the sand" and "whiteknighting" because of the bull that happened a while ago?

Because that wasn't "omg I see no problem with the game" --> "Shut up white knight".

It was "The game has been having issues quite often as of late, hence why people complain. People need to allow them to acknowledge this and not hide behind the game development's history" --> "You're complaining. Those aren't real things to complain about. You have no positive opinion of the game whatsoever." Didn't I reply to VelKallor a while ago that there were people going around telling others to be fine with the game and shutting down every instance of complaint and feedback? In fact, that's where I used those expressions. Because you are using words and expressions that sound rather similar to what I said, but again taken out of context. If that's the case, I'd like to clarify. That was just a torrent of misunderstandings, and if that's where you got it from, then I reiterate: that's not the message I was trying to pass through, and I've clarified it multiple times. And yes, I am assuming once again, so if that wasn't where you got that from, then feel free to dismiss this. It just sounded similar, so I'd like to clarify it just in case.

Because here's the thing. You just went for the few things I said that were disconnected from the argument I made. You didn't mention anything else about what I said. There's zero substance to this. Was the only thing you draw out of what I said "victim card"?

[Iscah]

Yeah but at least previous patches actually had more content and the focus of said content wasnt such engaging features such as:
-Right Click Island!
-Run this same dungeon 12 times
-Sorry no Exploration Zone pls understand

The "exploration zones" were at least as tedious and grindy as the current expansion's content, with a whole lot of trekking back and forth across dull scenery thrown in, and I am not sad to see them go.

If you levelled twice as fast and saw everything once or twice instead of ten times, I would have rated it higher, but everything just wore out its welcome long before you were done with it.

[kpxmanifesto]

??

Was your solution really to come here and wag your finger at other players and say "stop complaining?" Lol. It boggles me that some people think they can suppress the feedback of other players.

[vanaii]

Was your solution really to come here and wag your finger at other players and say "stop complaining?" Lol.

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