A game for 4 year olds

[kaynide]

That "one boss Omicron" is not the only one capable of issuing commands, and the others do still want to resume their original mission.

And yet, despite eons and eons of being able to do such, not once did anyone actually do so.

This inaction/restraint speaks volumes, even if it’s a
A) “so watcha wanna do?”
B) “I dunno, whatcha wanna do?”
A) “I dunno”

And then, despite not committing to pushing that red button, they presumably jump at doing something -anything- else (aka open a restaurant or whatever the tribe quest plot is).


Also, agreed- Omega is fantastic. Going from “I’ll be fine in this cold” to “oh gawd carry me T_T” was fun times.

Combine that with how nobody in game or out seems to care that we're entreating fairly with the literal Terminator mass murderers who demonstrated the willingness and capability to restart their war of conquest, well surely you can comprehend why I have little to no faith in this fandom's ability to judge people fairly and evenly without being tainted by preconceived bias based on the atrocities of a fictional race.

Again, these are actually, literally, NOT mass murderer robots, but carbon copies created by Meteion, and despite every opportunity/thousands of years to “restart their war of conquest”, they literally did not.

You might be mad thinking that we don’t care about mass murderers, but please consider that you don’t have a handle on the actual information the game is clearly telling you if you pay attention.

[Slatersev]

Also, its been mentioned already, but using Vidofnir, the dragon who's literal introduction to the story was her being ready and willing to let go of old hate and to move on, and was actively working towards it, as an example of the game being "kiddiefied" or whatever is bizarre, your basically arguing that her previous characterization should be chucked into the bin.

And that was against a people who had directly harmed her own for over a thousand years, why would she have any issue with making peace with innocent recreations, when even the orginals there based on misdeeds happened before her father, let alone her were born?

[aveyond-dreams]

Also, its been mentioned already, but using Vidofnir, the dragon who's literal introduction to the story was her being ready and willing to let go of old hate and to move on, and was actively working towards it, as an example of the game being "kiddiefied" or whatever is bizarre, your basically arguing that her previous characterization should be chucked into the bin.

And that was against a people who had directly harmed her own for over a thousand years, why would she have any issue with making peace with innocent recreations, when even the orginals there based on misdeeds happened before her father, let alone her were born?

Wow it's almost as if you can do that without having quests that revolve around the intergalatic cafe of hopes and dreams

[Alleo]

I am honestly still surprised that some of you still pay for this seemingly awful children game.

*shrug* Well in the end I really enjoy the beast tribe quests and that is all that matters to me. I hope that you guys will find something to like in this game too, after all, in these uncertain times we live in, it would be sad to waste so much on something that brings no happiness.

[RukoBoshi]

I am honestly still surprised that some of you still pay for this seemingly awful children game.

*shrug* Well in the end I really enjoy the beast tribe quests and that is all that matters to me. I hope that you guys will find something to like in this game too, after all in these uncertain times we live in, it would be sad to waste so much on sometimes that brings no happiness.

If i was half as dissatisfied with the game as some people in these forums, i would simply quit the game and find another game, for a time at least.
Maybe some people hope that 7.0 bringing a new overarching story will win them over again but i honestly doubt it.

What they didn't like in Endwalker won't go anywhere, Square simply have no reasons to not use Endwalker as a template going forward. And why wouldn't they ?

The reviews are praising the game, it gets a higher metascore than even shadowbringers, and the user score is as high as the last expansion.
With a feedback this positive, i don't see the game changing in significant way anytime soon or reverting it's tone to how it was in a previous expansion.

[Alleo]

If i was half as dissatisfied with the game as some people in these forums, i would simply quit the game and find another game, for a time at least.
Maybe some people hope that 7.0 bringing a new overarching story will win them over again but i honestly doubt it.

Funny thing is that I would now be called a White knight or a shill by some eventhough I had been very vocal in the past too. A lot of my posts had been negative and if Endwalker did not make me happy I would have left. But I did not just complain about it, I also took consequences and started to take breaks between the subs. There was a time when I was less than a half a year subbed and it would have been longer if I did not own a house. I also stopped buying from the cash shop and forbid a friend from giving me stuff there for my birthday.

It was probably not much but I at least did something. Some here complain endlessly, yet still seem to have a active sub nearly all the time and get stuff from the cash shop too. Why should SE listen? If someone still pays so much it cant be that bad after all.

Thankfully Endwalker saved the game for me and brought me much joy. I even bought myself the Shiba. I guess the real life situation right now made it even more clear to me that anything can end and that the time we have is precious. And I rather spend it with something that brings me happiness. Of course that does not mean that I wont complain about something in the future if I dont like it. Or that nobody should complain. But if something is more bad than good I am ready to drop it. Just like I wont do content even if I like the reward but hate doing it. I would have in the past, thankfully I learned and changed my behavior. It makes it so much easier.

[AwesomeJr44]

Wow it's almost as if you can do that without having quests that revolve around the intergalatic cafe of hopes and dreams

I've been playing through the Omicron quests and I keep having to ask myself why they thought the cafe part was necessary. There is an entire mysterious new area (Elysion) that would have sufficed for the tribal quest story on its own. Why does there need to be this stupid cafe exactly?

[MikkoAkure]

I've been playing through the Omicron quests and I keep having to ask myself why they thought the cafe part was necessary. There is an entire mysterious new area (Elysion) that would have sufficed for the tribal quest story on its own. Why does there need to be this stupid cafe exactly?

The cafe was started a year ago in 6.0 and it was already apparent back then it was going to be used for some quest chain to gather up the aliens since it looked expandable and at the end of its quest chain at the time, populated the area with an extra alien and an NPC gave us information on them.

The whole point of it was to be a neutral zone for the Omicrons to learn from other civilizations from the Dead Ends and across Ultima Thule as a part of the new directive you gave them in their dungeon unlock quest. The cafe itself was generated by Meteion in the MSQ as part of a world that was dead before she got there and the Omicrons were like "well this is here, so we might as well use it". It came out 10 months ahead of beast tribe quests and there's not really a point of not using it.

The things you learn when you pay attention and don't skip cutscenes.


But again, this isn't exactly the weirdest concept for a tribal questline. No one had issues when we were going to build a real-world tank factory/brewery for the Dwarves. Or expanded the facilities of the lowest-ranked and laziest segment of Kobold society. Or of all the buildings that could have had real use, we helped the Moogles rebuild a plaza that symbolizes the Ishgardians and the dragons being friends and cover it in pink Moogle pom-poms.

[Ransu]

The cafe was started a year ago in 6.0 and it was already apparent back then it was going to be used for some quest chain to gather up the aliens since it looked expandable and at the end of its quest chain at the time, populated the area with an extra alien and an NPC gave us information on them.

The whole point of it was to be a neutral zone for the Omicrons to learn from other civilizations from the Dead Ends and across Ultima Thule as a part of the new directive you gave them in their dungeon unlock quest. The cafe itself was generated by Meteion in the MSQ as part of a world that was dead before she got there and the Omicrons were like "well this is here, so we might as well use it". It came out 10 months ahead of beast tribe quests and there's not really a point of not using it.

The things you learn when you pay attention and don't skip cutscenes.


But again, this isn't exactly the weirdest concept for a tribal questline. No one had issues when we were going to build a real-world tank factory/brewery for the Dwarves. Or expanded the facilities of the lowest-ranked and laziest segment of Kobold society. Or of all the buildings that could have had real use, we helped the Moogles rebuild a plaza that symbolizes the Ishgardians and the dragons being friends and cover it in pink Moogle pom-poms.

Ya, like many of us have been saying. The tribal quests have ALWAYS been like this. They are goofy side stuff and the dev team never puts deep lore into side stuff that's not required to do. It seems to be mostly the typical trolls that have a hard on for hating on endwalker that are complaining about this.

[Cleretic]

Ya, like many of us have been saying. The tribal quests have ALWAYS been like this. They are goofy side stuff and the dev team never puts deep lore into side stuff that's not required to do. It seems to be mostly the typical trolls that have a hard on for hating on endwalker that are complaining about this.

Yeah, I still have not seen any evidence that these people have even done any previous non-combat tribe quest; if they did, they'd know this is extremely normal for them, and perhaps even on the tamer side compared to stuff like the namazu. At least some of the combat ones resemble being serious, even if a bunch of them are still silly.

Also, the cafe is there so we can have a Restaurant At The End Of The Universe. Their only mistake is not naming the loporrit involved some variant of Milliway.

EDIT: ...come to think of it, they literally released a namazu children's book. How are the Omicrons supposedly the most childish part, rather than just the latest in a line?